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re: Obama Dreamer Deported with the Quickness
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:47 am to Abadeebadaba
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:47 am to Abadeebadaba
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How is he getting deported when he is under DACA and renewed it last year? DACA allows you to have a work visa and a license. I am all for deporting illegals, but if he had the proper paperwork through DACA then I am not sure how they are deporting him.
Don't know as they didn't go into the details. He was rounded up when ICE was looking specific illegals with felonies or wanted for felonies. ICE says he admitted ties to a gang but he has no criminal history and is Under DACA which should have vetted him.
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:49 am to 14&Counting
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no criminal record
He's here illegally so he is a criminal.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:49 am to 9th life
I don't understand why they feel entitled to a path to citizenship, though. "Authorized Resident?", maybe, but not citizen. Not unless they want to go back to the country of their birth and apply for citizenship the right way. Being able to file paperwork of any sort as an illegal while HERE ILLEGALLY is the dumbest shite imaginable.
It should all be processed through the US Embassy in the capital of whatever shithole country they don't want to live in. I'm all for biometric registration of these folks, so if you get caught here after you've submitted your paperwork in aforementioned shithole country, the application is ripped up and you are labeled an Enemy of the State.
It should all be processed through the US Embassy in the capital of whatever shithole country they don't want to live in. I'm all for biometric registration of these folks, so if you get caught here after you've submitted your paperwork in aforementioned shithole country, the application is ripped up and you are labeled an Enemy of the State.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:50 am to 9th life
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a law abiding
I see where you are missing the point. How is one law abiding when they broke the law to enter the country illegally?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:50 am to 14&Counting
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DACA which should have vetted him
Clearly DACA vetting doesn't work. Blow it up.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:51 am to narddogg81
quote:FIFY
The DemoLeft seems to think illegals have squatters rights. Those people are morons.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 11:52 am
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:56 am to 9th life
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Dreamer is an actual term or people who entered the country under the age of 16 and is a path to citizenship.
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Daniel Ramirez-Medina, a 23-year-old who has been in the US since he was 16,
Daca wouldn't apply to Daniel. He was not under the age of 16 when he entered the U.S. No?
From your link
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Person must have proof that they entered United States before the age of 16 and must have continuously lived in the country for at least 5 years
Just offering some assistance in your betterment.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:57 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Well done. Illegal is illegal and illegal immigrants are not law-abiding citizens.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:59 am to 9th life
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Not pointing a finger at you specifically, but I think one could agree with his potential deportation without celebrating it.
I get the humane part and if you put me in a room with this guy with gang ties in a room together he may be able to get me to feel bad for him.
However, I'm not celebrating individual victories. I'm celebrating action of getting the bad ones out first then dealing with the rest.
This guy getting caught up is just an example of more to come as our laws are enforced.
Gang ties should be an automatic exit IMO. Those are some bad hombres.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:03 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
glad you read it.
did you read the rest of the act and realize that more than 50% of the posts in this thread are incorrectly confusing illegal immigrants with enrollees in the dreamer program?
I had already acknowledged that he may have violated the terms of the program, hence his deportation. The article in the OP was vague on that.
did you read the rest of the act and realize that more than 50% of the posts in this thread are incorrectly confusing illegal immigrants with enrollees in the dreamer program?
I had already acknowledged that he may have violated the terms of the program, hence his deportation. The article in the OP was vague on that.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:06 pm to GurleyGirl
Literally it has been precedent for over 100 years that intitial illegal entry into the country and the following illegal presence is not criminal, but civil. Why people say they are "criminals" is mind blowing.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:09 pm to MMauler
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Odumbf*ck'
Are you a child?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:16 pm to 9th life
If he was 16 when he entered the U.S. then he technically does not qualify for DACA. It just proves how loosely Obama's administration vetted or skirted the law.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:16 pm to VoxDawg
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I don't understand why they feel entitled to a path to citizenship, though. "Authorized Resident?", maybe, but not citizen. Not unless they want to go back to the country of their birth and apply for citizenship the right way. Being able to file paperwork of any sort as an illegal while HERE ILLEGALLY is the dumbest shite imaginable.
Where is entitlement coming from?
Dreamers are children of illegal immigrants who came here and the program provides them a path to citizenship. They have to finish high school, enroll in the military or college and complete a certain number of schooling in a certain time frame. Sounds like they do more to earn citizenship than I ever did.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:21 pm to lionward2014
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it has been precedent for over 100 years that intitial illegal entry into the country and the following illegal presence is not criminal, but civil.
I would submit that this precedent should be examined more closely, in light of the climate and intent of invaders who thumb their nose at US sovereignty.
ETA - I'd also add that the "Dreamer" tag is a construct of the Obama administration to harp on the sympathies of the American public by creating the illusion that their interests run parallel to the American Dream. "Oh, Fred. Maybe they aren't so bad, after all. They just want to pursue the American Dream, like we all do. Maybe it's okay that they're here, feeding off the system like parasites. They're so cute when they're young."
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:23 pm to 9th life
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incorrectly confusing illegal immigrants with enrollees in the dreamer program?
An illegal immigrant enrolls in the dreamer program. Otherwise, there would be no dreamer program.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:23 pm to lionward2014
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Improper Entry Is a Crime
To be clear, the most common crime associated with illegal immigration is likely improper entry. Under federal criminal law, it is misdemeanor for an alien (i.e., a non-citizen) to:
Enter or attempt to enter the United States at any time or place other than designated by immigration officers;
Elude examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
Attempt to enter or obtain entry to the United States by willfully concealing, falsifying, or misrepresenting material facts.
The punishment under this federal law is no more than six months of incarceration and up to $250 in civil penalties for each illegal entry. These acts of improper entry -- including the mythic "border jumping" -- are criminal acts associated with illegally immigrating to the United States.
Like all other criminal charges in the United States, improper entry must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict.
Illegal presence is one that initially the person had a legal visa but has stayed beyond the Visa's expiration date. It is considered a civil matter.
Do not tie them together because that is incorrect.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:23 pm to TheHumanTornado
He came here when he was 16
How many others out of the 7 billion people not living here would you like to let stroll in and not commit crimes?
Think, it is good exercise for your brain
How many others out of the 7 billion people not living here would you like to let stroll in and not commit crimes?
Think, it is good exercise for your brain
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:25 pm to bhtigerfan
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Has Trump not rescinded DACA yet?
It would appear that ICE is deporting DACA people.
Do you want an engraved EO, or just results?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:25 pm to roadGator
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An illegal immigrant enrolls in the dreamer program. Otherwise, there would be no dreamer program.
Correct. The illegals who enroll need to prove they were under 16 and have been living in the U.S. continuously for five years.
It's not like they came to the border and applied for Daca and all is well. Even though Obama illegally used it that way.
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