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re: Obama- group moves to block Trump voting commission from collecting data
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:04 pm to Pigimus Prime
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:04 pm to Pigimus Prime
quote:No shite.
This commission does not have the authorization to do anything but request the data through regular means
quote:What now asking for data is chilling as well?
The fact that they sent a letter was an effort to use the guise of Federal backing to influence the states to do something they should not have to do.
quote:This doesn't concern your privacy issues?
I work with state voter files every day, and we paid for all of them like anyone else should—including Kobach
quote:Unless I buy the data.
That raises additional issues that people should worry about.
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:04 pm to Jbird
quote:
Well Pigimus is concerned, even though he stated multiple agencies have access to that data.
Haha, I am not concerned about this. It was the groups you mentioned in the OP talking about that, not me.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:05 pm to Pigimus Prime
quote:So you don't care if someone buys the data, you just don't want these guys to have the data.
Haha, I am not concerned about this. It was the groups you mentioned in the OP talking about that, not me.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:10 pm to Jbird
quote:
No shite.
But they did. The method is not to send a Federal letter to the states, it is to go through their election data divisions as an applicant.
quote:
What now asking for data is chilling as well?
Now you are being a dick. I never used the word chilling. That seems to come from your OP and that was not me. I am opposed to the current efforts on both sides as I said in my first reply.
quote:
This doesn't concern your privacy issues?
No, because I have signed contractual NDAs and I know how/where the data are securely stored. Suffice to say the storage is not networked and locked in a vault.
quote:
Unless I buy the data.
Yes, you can buy the data as you see fit. It will cost you around $150,000 for all 50 states plus DC. That is not the point. The point is that an effort to fuzzy match and then possibly link to other federal records is a disastrous idea that I am betting when there is a power change in government you would not be in favor of.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:12 pm to Jbird
quote:
So you don't care if someone buys the data, you just don't want these guys to have the data.
What I want is irrelevant. They can buy the data, sure. They should also sign agreements with the states about what they can do it with like most states require. Now, if the question is do I think a bunch of partisans attempting to manage a national voter database that they store on a publically open military server the answer is no.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:12 pm to Pigimus Prime
quote:Ah so it's the process not that data that bothers you.
But they did. The method is not to send a Federal letter to the states, it is to go through their election data divisions as an applicant.
quote:But i can buy it to include mailing labels.
Suffice to say the storage is not networked and locked in a vault.
quote:How would you figure out if multiple voters voted in multiple states otherwise?
The point is that an effort to fuzzy match and then possibly link to other federal records
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:14 pm to Pigimus Prime
quote:What is your area of expertise as it relates to "open" military servers?
open military server the answer is no.
quote:Um do you have a link to this permanent managed database plan?
I think a bunch of partisans attempting to manage a national voter database
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:14 pm to Jbird
Why on earth would you think I am for a national firearms database? I own more guns than Paddock had in two houses and a casino hotel room. I even have bump stocks and a couple of suppressors. 
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:15 pm to Pigimus Prime
quote:I didn't, which is why I asked you the question.
Why on earth would you think I am for a national firearms database?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:16 pm to Jbird
Why would someone de-register from the voting roll if they were legally registered?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:17 pm to Pigimus Prime
quote:
I own more guns than Paddock had in two houses and a casino hotel room. I even have bump stocks and a couple of suppressors.
You mean you used to. You told me you lost all those in the flood, right? :Wink:
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:18 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:
Why would someone de-register from the voting roll if they were legally registered?
Because they were "chilled" by the very inquiry.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:18 pm to Jbird
Why did you ask then? What about me telling you I am a Republican that hates the IRS and useless government overreach makes you think I want that sort of thing?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:18 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:Indeed.
Why would someone de-register from the voting roll if they were legally registered?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:19 pm to Jbird
quote:
"The mere specter of the Commission’s data-collection has caused thousands of citizens to de-register from their states’ voter rolls
You can find those citizens in the graveyard.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:19 pm to Pigimus Prime
quote:Well I wanted to know if your protect my persona data was specific.
Why did you ask then?
quote:
What about me telling you I am a Republican that hates the IRS and useless government overreach makes you think I want that sort of thing?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:20 pm to Jbird
quote:
Well I wanted to know if your protect my persona data was specific.
It's not.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:21 pm to ChewyDante
quote:
You mean you used to. You told me you lost all those in the flood, right? :Wink:
Oh that's right.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:22 pm to Pigimus Prime
quote:Thanks, seems odd I can buy your data, you know nothing about me, but you are concerned about someone else requesting the same data.
It's not.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:23 pm to upgrayedd
quote:
So now looking at voter rolls is illegal and potentially dangerous? It's fricking bizarro world.
"Potentially dangerous" in regard to the Liberal Illegal voter block for sure.
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