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re: NYPD Cops Turn Backs on Mayor DeBlasio At Slain Officer’s Funeral
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:00 am to MSMHater
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:00 am to MSMHater
quote:Well said. Police worship must stop.
God forbid a city leader hold his subordinates accountable for their trend of shitty, illegal behavior, instead of just holding benevolent to their union contributions6.
How dare the mayor have an accurate moral conscience! The nerve! Just blindly support police and their unions like all your predecessors. Don't you know that's what will get you re-elected?
frick the NYPD and their blind loyalty to the shield! Hold your own accountable and you may find yourself getting more respect from the general public. Until then, you deserve the scorn you get, and the mayor is right for not blindly supporting your TREND of criminal behavior.
Not a DAMN thing Deblassio did to contribute to the deaths of these two officers, but not even police are above making a political point.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:17 am to JazzyJeff
I don't think I have ever seen a post on here that lavished praise on police.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:25 am to Sentrius
Good for them.
frick DeBlasio.
frick DeBlasio.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:54 am to the808bass
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Over 200 chokehold complaints in a year.
Sorry - I am not impressed by the 'complaints' from criminals who resist arrest.
Are you thinking that a criminal who resists arrest should be given one of those evaluation cards so that he can rate the service he received on a scale of 1 to 10?
I got a hint for all who have complaints - don't f'n resist arrest - better yet - don't do the crime to begin with. THAT will nip all this police barbarism in the bud.
When you find cops who just go around putting 'chokeholds' on ordinary citizens going about their everyday productive lives, then I will listen.
Screw the criminals - and especially screw the assholes who resist arrest. They should be shot down in the street if we cannot use whatever physical force it takes to subdue them.
I don't want cops having to put their own lives unnecessarily at risk while trying to apprehend some piece of shite who feels like showing what a badass he is while being arrested. Quickest and easiest way to put the POS in cuffs is fine by me.
This is the real world - you are the one who wants to treat law enforcement like a video game. You are not in the real world.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:13 am to Zed
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WNYC analyzed NYPD records and found 51,503 cases with resisting arrest charges since 2009. Just five percent of officers who made arrests during that period account for 40% of resisting arrest cases — and 15% account for almost 3/4 of such cases.
You also have to realize that police work is not pretty and a lot of officers don't want to make any arrest because they don't want to get in trouble. You have some officers that are hard workers and they get a lot of complaints. The hard part is to separate the good hard working officers from the bad seeds. A lot of times of times they get the same complaints because they are arresting the same criminals. Video certainly helps a lot.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:47 am to JazzyJeff
quote:It's credit where credit is due. No big city PD has done a more effective job than this millennium's NYPD, ever, so much so that they made even David Dinkins look good for a while. There's a reason that The Sopranos took place in North Jersey and not Brooklyn, and NYPD was instrumental in that. There's a reason that the little girls who live down the street from me can play freeze tag outside after dark. There's a reason I once left my bike unlocked in front of my house for the better part of a month without it being stolen. New York just isn't too great a place if you like breaking the law.
Well said. Police worship must stop.
NYPD has done too much good work to be used as race bait by a dishonest, unprepared mayor with a creepy political agenda, and the fact that NYPD, who saves more black lives than anyone, won't stand for it doesn't surprise me.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 7:52 am
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:01 am to Sentrius
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It's a shitty time and setting to make a political point and big frick you to the victim's family who just had their lives torn apart and are grieving like hell. Cops owe the victim's family an apology.
Just speculation but I suspect the family was informed and supported the action.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:26 am to Sentrius
quote:Do you have any information regarding the families' opinions of the gesture, or are you disrespecting them by speculating?
It's a shitty time and setting to make a political point and big frick you to the victim's family who just had their lives torn apart and are grieving like hell. Cops owe the victim's family an apology.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:52 am to ballscaster
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Do you have any information regarding the families' opinions of the gesture, or are you disrespecting them by speculating?
If I remember correctly, they asked deblasio to be at the funeral and even without that, it's a general rule of thumb for all funerals alike. No family deserves to have a loved one's funeral made into a political spectacle no matter how small or big the gesture may be.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:06 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:
Sorry - I am not impressed by the 'complaints' from criminals who resist arrest.
This is typical of the argument from your side. To you and your ilk, everyone who has a complaint about police is a criminal.
quote:
When you find cops who just go around putting chokeholds on citizens going about their everyday productive lives, then I will listen.
No. You won't. This already happens, whether it's a chokehold or a no knock raid or an excessive force usage on an innocent person. (You will now reword your argument to talk about prevalence and percentages.)
quote:
They should be shot down in the street
Why the hatred? Serious question. It is telling that your argument is so visceral.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:09 am to ballscaster
quote:
They're not his chess piece
But they are the union's chess pieces and will do what they're told by that group. That sort of politicking is A-OK, amirite?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:10 am to Sentrius
If you want to be critical of political posturing the de Blasio speech and Biden's appearance were just as blatant.
de Blasio said what he was forced to say given the reaction to his initial statements. He was a politician playing politics at that funeral.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:10 am to Erin Go Bragh
quote:
Just speculation but I suspect the family was informed and supported the action.
Just speculation, but they didn't have much choice.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:12 am to Holden Caulfield
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de Blasio said what he was forced to say given the reaction to his initial statements. He was a politician playing politics at that funeral.
And our analysis of it is what? Politicizing a funeral. Outside of the people directly connected to these families, pretty much everyone in the country who is awake is politicizing this issue.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:14 am to the808bass
quote:
Just speculation, but they didn't have much choice
You don't know that do you? I would imagine if the family had requested the police not make the gesture they wouldn't have.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:16 am to Sentrius
You didn't answer the question. Clearly you have no information regarding the families' opinions of the gesture, and you are inserting your own opinion into a place where it couldn't be less relevant or appropriate. Please show respect to the families and allow them to speak for themselves before you speculate on such things.
Relevant question: who funded the funeral?
Relevant question: who funded the funeral?
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 10:18 am
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:19 am to Erin Go Bragh
quote:
I would imagine if the family had requested the police not make the gesture they wouldn't have.
And you don't know that.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:23 am to the808bass
quote:
And you don't know that.
Good grief man. Its speculation but had the widow requested the police force not make the gesture its doubtful they would have ignored her wishes.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:39 am to Erin Go Bragh
I'd guess it's doubtful that they wouldn't pressure the family (in a really nice way, I'm sure) to go ahead with their statement.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:46 am to the808bass
quote:
I'd guess it's doubtful that they wouldn't pressure the family (in a really nice way, I'm sure) to go ahead with their statement.
Maybe, maybe not. But in responding to the poster who said the police owed the family an apology I was speculating about the family's awareness of what would happen. The widow probably spoke to scores of police officers prior to the funeral and was well aware of what would take place.
I chose to believe she was not coerced into accepting the gesture and that the police would have honored her request not to proceed with it.
Unless she makes further comment we may never know.
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