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re: NYPD Cops Turn Backs on Mayor DeBlasio At Slain Officer’s Funeral

Posted on 12/27/14 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64161 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 5:29 pm to
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Maybe If we focused more on the 12 year old Cleveland boy, or the middle aged Hispanic gentleman shot in Georgia, instead of the race of each victim,


Gonna be hard huh?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 5:32 pm to
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I don't think a slain officer's funeral is the appropriate time or place to make a political statement, regardless of how much they resent or blame de Blasio.


Trashy
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19441 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 5:34 pm to
Tell me which one was the white cop? The ones that got murdered sitting I their cruiser that is.

Didn't recall the headline reading "black person kill two white cops". You must be well informed. God damn.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78349 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 5:36 pm to
Read this. And then read my post done right after the killings again.

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Public officials also bear responsibility because they have special duties. They are keepers of the order that must be assured if liberty is to thrive. They are not like the average 21-year-old anthropology major bemoaning the police because “black lives matter” — notwithstanding that the cops protect millions of black lives while the nitwit student protects none. When public officials signal to the mob that its anger is so justified that its criminal behavior, even if not exactly condoned, will be rationalized, minimized, or ignored, they are facilitating criminality. So of course they should be deemed contributorily culpable when the criminality happens.

To say that the mayor, the attorney general, and the president are not guilty of last weekend’s murders of two police officers is not to say they are blameless. To distinguish them from the murderer is not to pronounce them suitable for the weighty public trusts they hold. There is guilt here to be apportioned. Apportioning it is not collectivizing it — it is not engaging in the same convoluted demagoguery that blamed Sarah Palin’s electioneering for a mass-murder in Tucson by a man with a history of mental illness, or that blamed bourgeois America for the killing of John F. Kennedy by a Communist.

A radical movement has openly called for the killing of cops. The officials responsible for keeping order abdicated their duties, and cops predictably started being assaulted and killed. We should not tar all the culpable actors with the same brush, but we should absolutely hold them accountable for what they have done.

Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
6032 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 5:48 pm to

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Complaints of alleged police wrongdoing in New York City have hit a record level of 5,601 — a 150 percent increase from 2006 — and when the claims were settled or went to trial, they have cost the city over $315 million from 2006 to 2012, according to latest figures released by the city.


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On average, New York City pays about $45 million a year to settle or pay plaintiffs who have won in court on police-related claims, which are defined as "alleged improper police conduct, such as false arrest or imprisonment, shooting of a suspect, excessive force, assault or failure to provide police protection."





There are probably some valid complaint in those filings.......as in ANY OTHER JOB there are bad apples.

What you and others need to understand is that EVERY frickING CRIMINAL that becomes incarcerated claims police misconduct. Either them or their families will claim it at every turn in order to either get the charges reduced, dropped, or to get paid.

You must understand that most of these suits are only settled out of court to save money instead of going to trial. (I hate that departments do this, but it's the truth).

It's the same with crashes.........there are countless instances of fender benders involving a unit costing a department in the area of 100k
This post was edited on 12/27/14 at 5:54 pm
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42514 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:03 pm to
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Maybe If we focused more on the 12 year old Cleveland boy, or the middle aged Hispanic gentleman shot in Georgia, instead of the race of each victim, this conversation may be more productive.

Now this I agree with.

MY hackles get raised when everything under the sun finds a way to be blamed on white racism.

It is bad enough when the media and hucksters like Sharpton are the ones doing the goading. But when the POTUS, the AG and the mayor of NYC jump on the race-bait wagon, inciting riots, it gets my shorts in a wad.

Find a case of real racism and we can talk - but these manufactured cases should be shunned and discredited by anyone who wants to be considered a leader.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:12 pm to
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As far as I am concerned


What city is yours?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73416 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:12 pm to
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Find a case of real racism and we can talk - but these manufactured cases should be shunned and discredited by anyone who wants to be considered a leader.
This.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:13 pm to
The very idea that de Blasio pledged to retrain the entire police force because of the Garner incident is just another exhibit of the arrogance we see on the left. He lumped all of NYPD as "the problem," and they have responded to him in a way he deserves. Bless NYPD. Damn de Blasio.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:15 pm to
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I don't think a slain officer's funeral is the appropriate time or place to make a political statement, regardless of how much they resent or blame de Blasio.
de Blasio was the one with the mic.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:20 pm to
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fricking tacky. Expect nothing less from New Yorkers.
0 fricks
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:45 pm to
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NYPD Cops Turn Backs on Mayor DeBlasio At Slain Officer’s Funeral
The very idea that de Blasio pledged to retrain the entire police force because of the Garner incident is just another exhibit of the arrogance we see on the left.
The Eric Garner video showed excessive force to any reasonable person. De Blasio promised to address how the NYPD deals with those situations, as he should have. Instead of following his lead, and showing concerned citizens they gave a shite about those concerns, the NYPD whined about how unfair he was being. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Posted by Ducyborg
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2012
1191 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:52 pm to
And he is also the elected public figure of that city. That is what they want and is what they are getting
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19054 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:57 pm to
They should have pissed on him.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16403 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 7:56 pm to
The family should have had Diblasio removed from the service as soon as his sorry arse showed up.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42514 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 7:56 pm to
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The Eric Garner video showed excessive force to any reasonable person.

No - no it did not. It showed police doing what had to be done to take down a man resisting arrest.

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De Blasio promised to address how the NYPD deals with those situations, as he should have.

DeBlasio made it into a racial incident. The retraining he addressed was how to handle black criminals.

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Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Yes - DeBlasio and all libtards are stupid stupid stupid.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:01 pm to
Law enforcement is such a large special interest group. It's crazy.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:06 pm to
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Instead of following his lead
^^^arrogance on the part of de Blasio, and you bought it. He pledged to retrain the entire department when such comprehensive retraining is unneeded. If NYPD had been doing a poor job over the past 15 years, he would have quite a mandate here, but taking an isolated incident like Garner and using it to shite on the undeniably excellent job NYPD has done in our lifetime (New York is the most crime-free 500,000+ city in world history) warrants AT LEAST NYPD's backs to be turned on this race-baiting frick.
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Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Get your facts straight first, pal.
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:21 pm to
The NYPD does have a problem with officers using excessive force. It's a small minority, but nothing is done to deal with them.
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Police departments around the country consider frequent charges of resisting arrest a potential red flag, as some officers might add the charge to justify use of force. WNYC analyzed NYPD records and found 51,503 cases with resisting arrest charges since 2009. Just five percent of officers who made arrests during that period account for 40% of resisting arrest cases — and 15% account for almost 3/4 of such cases.
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CCRB Records show that 40 percent of the 35,000 officers on the force today have never been the subject of a citizen complaint. Another 20 percent have only one. Yet about a thousand cops have 10 or more complaints. One has been able to rack up 51. The name of that officer is confidential, as are the names of any officer who is the target of a CCRB complaint.
Bratton would evidently disagree with you on the need for retraining.
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The NYPD did not respond to multiple requests for an interview for this story. Bratton has started a massive department-wide retraining on the use of force and spoken out about the need to get rid of bad cops. “There are some officers in the department unfortunately who should not be here,” he told reporters a couple of months ago. “They’re brutal, they’re corrupt and we’ll work very aggressively to deal with that.”
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