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National Security Agency discloses in secret Capitol Hill briefing that thousands of analysts can listen to domestic phone calls. That authorization appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too.
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The National Security Agency has acknowledged in a new classified briefing that it does not need court authorization to listen to domestic phone calls.


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On my phone, so I apologize if this has already been posted. Search is a bit cumbersome at the moment.
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Senator Obama is going to be pissed!


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Senator Obama is going to be pissed!


Hahaha he has "evolved".


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National Security Agency discloses in secret Capitol Hill


So its ok for
the government to do things in "secret".

We, the peasants, no way.

frick the government
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Hahaha he has "evolved".


Dick Cheney said this would happen.

Known as the master manipulator of power behind the scenes as George W. Bush's vice president, Cheney predicted at the dawn of Obama's presidency that the relentless campaign criticism of shadowed government would not come to much.

"My guess is, once they get here and they're faced with the same problems we deal with every day, that they will appreciate some of the things we've put in place," he said. "They'll need all the authority they can muster."


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Unbelievable........


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Unbelievable........


The last sentence from Beer's post tells you why, of course the Organizer hasn't the grapes to make that claim, simply because he is never wrong.


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EST
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If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required,



So Snowden wasn't lying.


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If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, So Snowden wasn't lying.


Rexcatur was hard over on the fact this was nothing but meta data, they could in no way simply drill in at anytime.


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It's for security, J. No way that political operatives would even THINK of using the juicy stuff against their political opponents.

The Government...has now become an agent for IT'S OWN survival and prosperity. Oh yeah...like a crooked preacher or roofer, it's all about doing a good job for those whom they (supposedly) serve...but....!!

Undermining government power, has now become a form of defacto sedition or treason. It'll become more so in the future. 47% of the electorate are all in Authoritarian Socialist. The handful in the middle are too confused to know what the hell to do.

Oh well.



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Joshjrn
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It's a long article, but worth the read. There are quite a few gems in there like that one.


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If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, So Snowden wasn't lying.


Say it isn't so!!!

LOL. By the way, an "analysts" decision is sufficient. Just for the record, that would be an Intel Analyst. In other words, it literally could be some 22 year old E4 in the Army who gets to make that call.


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Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed "simply based on an analyst deciding that."


fricking outrageous


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The claims in the CNET story were quickly debunked as soon as it went online last night

The article makes claims that clearly do not follow from the comments made by Nadler, who himself may have been conflating the two surveillance types.

I don't know a single person who gives that article any credence.


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I don't know a single person who gives that article any credence.
Well golly, how many people do you know?

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NSA can 'listen to U.S. phone calls' without a warrant

The National Security Agency can listen to domestic phone calls without a warrant, according to a disclosure by Representative Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, made during a briefing to members of Congress last Thursday.

Listening to phone calls without a warrant is illegal - but according to Mr Nadler, the NSA does not obtain a warrant to listen to calls.

Nadler said during the briefing that he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed 'simply based on an analyst deciding that.'

Disclosure: Representative Jerrold Nadler has called into question the nature and legality of the NSA's operations in the U.S.
If the NSA wants 'to listen to the phone,' an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, Nadler said he was informed.

'I was rather startled,' said Nadler, an attorney and congressman who serves on the House Judiciary committee.

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Go ahead down the rabbit hole


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Lsut81
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Heres the exchange

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Joshjrn
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The article quite clearly follows from Nadler's statements. If he is conflating the issue, I would like an explanation. I'm not looking for a gotcha. I'm a libertarian: I hate all the bastards equally


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