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re: NPR: Rand Paul Bids To Loosen Democratic Hold On African-American Vote
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:43 pm to RollTide4Ever
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:43 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Rand is set to speak at U. of Chicago, with questioning by Axlerod to follow.
I've got to see this.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:43 pm to Lakeboy7
What makes you think young latinos would vote dem?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:47 pm to GumboPot
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GOP candidate need to be proactive and yes, pander to AA audiences on a regular basis.
That's the problem right there. Blatant pandering is blatant pandering. It's not sincere and voters know that. The GOP needs to actually and legitimately care about the issues that are meaningful to the whole country.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:53 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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That's the problem right there. Blatant pandering is blatant pandering. It's not sincere and voters know that. The GOP needs to actually and legitimately care about the issues that are meaningful to the whole country.
Well I used the wrong word then. I didn't mean pandering in terms of being insincere. Albeit it does come off as insincere and likely is most certainly insincere when GWB, McCain or Romney show up to address the NAACP 2 months before the November general election.
With that said, I DO NOT believe Paul is being insincere when he addresses AAs this early in the process. I really believe that he believes reducing mandatory minimums, school choice, and economic empowering zones are beneficial ideas to AAs.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:06 pm to GumboPot
Pandering implies insincerity, and Paul is not insincere. This what pandering looks like.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:11 pm to a want
Power? LMAO.
You are a black christian and you vote in a party that is responsible for 55 million baby murders and pushing the homosexual agenda.
LMAO.
That's not power, that's being a weak fool and a coward.
Hold a sign up that says I am too dumb to think for myself.
You are a black christian and you vote in a party that is responsible for 55 million baby murders and pushing the homosexual agenda.
LMAO.
That's not power, that's being a weak fool and a coward.
Hold a sign up that says I am too dumb to think for myself.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:17 pm to trackfan
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Pandering implies insincerity, and Paul is not insincere. This what pandering looks like.
Yeah, I corrected myself in my previous post.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:18 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
That's a very persuasive message S.E.C. Crazy. I'll bet you're able to win over a lot of Black folks with this kind of rhetoric. Perhaps Rand should hire you on as a political consultant.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:19 pm to BBONDS25
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What makes you think young latinos would vote dem?
That's why I said "if", and I would think with all the immigration rhetoric dems would have a leg up, but that's only my opinion.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:21 pm to Maxx99
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Yup, they're already on it via Battleground Texas.
Good read.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:45 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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Power? LMAO. You are a black christian and you vote in a party that is responsible for 55 million baby murders and pushing the homosexual agenda.
LMAO.
That's not power, that's being a weak fool and a coward.
Hold a sign up that says I am too dumb to think for myself.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:53 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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It's not sincere and voters know that. The GOP needs to actually and legitimately care about the issues that are meaningful to the whole country.
All politicians are panderers. This isn't confined to the GOP. Democrats care to the same extent as Republicans.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:57 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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Power? LMAO.
You are a black christian and you vote in a party that is responsible for 55 million baby murders and pushing the homosexual agenda.
LMAO.
That's not power, that's being a weak fool and a coward.
Hold a sign up that says I am too dumb to think for myself.
Never, ever change
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:03 pm to trackfan
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That's a very persuasive message S.E.C. Crazy. I'll bet you're able to win over a lot of Black folks with this kind of rhetoric. Perhaps Rand should hire you on as a political consultant.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:16 pm to trackfan
He could even make an unusual bloc of Democratic voter support to swing his way, some from the more liberal side of the Party concerned with civil liberties, as well as some moderate-leaning Democrats that like his views on economic reform...
shite, he could even get me to come out and vote (due to both reasons stated above, concerns over civil liberties and economic reform). But since I live in Texas, my vote won't really matter b/c the state will swing Republican anyway -- at least for 2 more election cycles, though 3 at most I would think given the state's future demographic composition is likely to favor the Democratic Party in national -- but it'll probably be more pronounced -- in presidential elections.
shite, he could even get me to come out and vote (due to both reasons stated above, concerns over civil liberties and economic reform). But since I live in Texas, my vote won't really matter b/c the state will swing Republican anyway -- at least for 2 more election cycles, though 3 at most I would think given the state's future demographic composition is likely to favor the Democratic Party in national -- but it'll probably be more pronounced -- in presidential elections.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 5:18 pm to trackfan
quote:I would submit that if the GOP were to get a consistent 20% of the black vote both in National and Statewide elections, it would be electoral catastrophe for the Democrats. That would be a solid shite of 15% of the black vote and the many national and statewide elections would shite on that.
The GOP doesn't need to win the Black vote, they just need to get it back to the 30-50% range of the Eisenhower era.
Moreover, if the shift to 20% happened and was consistent, it would also affect the white vote because let's be blunt, there is at least a sliver of the white vote which is completely tied to white guilt. It may only be 1 or 2%, but that combined with the other shift would be HUGE electorally.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:28 pm to trackfan
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This what pandering looks like.
That was painful to watch
I like Romney but damn he was out of touch.
I don't get why some feel the need to try to intertwine into other group's culture. It's offensive to that group. It bothers me when Obama went to Texas and wore boots and a cowboy hat...seriously I was thinking "just stop, you look dumb".
My favorite is when people talk to Hispanics and start using a Spanish accent
If I were a candidate for some political position and had to speak to minority groups, I would just be myself, wear what I wear, talk how I talk. Speak my message clearly and make sure my speech has nothing that could be taken out of context.
People respect you more for being yourself, not acting "like them". That's what made Reagan such a popular speaker he just went up there and did his thing.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:30 pm to trackfan
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He also lamented that "whites are not afforded the same right to celebrate their own cultural identity" as blacks and Hispanics.
This is 100% true.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:38 pm to ShortyRob
I think the GOP could get 20% of the black vote, and consistently get 35-40% of the Hispanic vote. They need the right message and new blood like Rand in the party who will not only reach out, but create a new narrative based on new issues and solutions to push for.
People get tired of the old "gay marriage, abortion, weed bad" arguments. Bring some new issues to light, issues that you can use against the Democrats. You have to find things you are on the right side of history on....choice in education, reform drug laws, economic issues, personal freedom, immigration reform.
People get tired of the old "gay marriage, abortion, weed bad" arguments. Bring some new issues to light, issues that you can use against the Democrats. You have to find things you are on the right side of history on....choice in education, reform drug laws, economic issues, personal freedom, immigration reform.
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