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re: Nash Farm Battlefield museum to close after requests to remove Confederate flags
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:41 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 5/25/17 at 10:41 am to DawgsLife
quote:i can't help it if you think i was referring to the war itself when i talked about the battlefield museum.
Bless your heart for thinking it wasn't in the Civil War.
can't fix stupid
Posted on 5/25/17 at 11:12 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Mfers. I done told you.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 11:13 am to DawgsLife
Statement posted on Facebook by Cassie Barrow, Co-Founder of Friends of Nash Farm Battlefield, Inc. and Past President
Fair disclosure, Cassie's husband is a previous commander in chief of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
Fair disclosure, Cassie's husband is a previous commander in chief of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
quote:
There are many distortions of the truth that seem to be floating around social media and the press as to what actually transpired between Henry County District 2 Commissioner Dee Clemmons and the Friends of Nash Farm Battlefield, Inc. To help clarify, I think it is now imperative I share what Commissioner Clemmons ordered on May 13, 2017 while a guest at an awards ceremony the Georgia Civil War Commission was hosting inside the museum.
As I am the co-founder and past president of the Friends of Nash Farm Battlefield, Inc., I was responsible for making sure Commissioner Clemmons was welcomed and introduced to the various people visiting the museum that day. Throughout the afternoon, Commissioner Clemmons made a point to sequester me from the group to discuss matters pertaining to the battlefield and museum. It was during these times that she told me that all Confederate flags INSIDE the museum must be removed because they could be offensive to a child or adult.
While she stated that all Confederate flags must be removed from inside the museum, the one we had extensive dialogue about was the Georgia Military Institute Flag (replica), which was a Second National Confederate flag with the battle accolades painted on it. This flag was displayed in what we called the Children’s Room, which is an area where the history about the hardships of the children, both boys and girls, and Union and Confederate, during this time was told.
Located in this particular room was not only dress up clothes for children who visited the museum to play with, but images of boys, Union and Confederate, who fought. There was a library where children could read about Georgia history in general.
I explained to Commissioner Clemmons about the cadets, some as young as 14, that fought in the Battle of Resaca, in addition to other battles in Georgia, stating that since this unit of boys was from Georgia, their story was appropriate for the room. She told me that the historical aspect did not matter, but that the flag was offensive and had to be removed from inside the museum.
As stated previously, Commissioner Clemmons went on to say that all the Confederate flags that she had seen in the museum could not be displayed in a historical setting as they were because of their offence to many.
This issue has nothing to do with the Confederate Second National Flag she had removed from the flag pole several months ago, but is a distinct separate event.
During our discussions, she also stated that the word “battlefield” should not be associated with the property because there was no battle that was fought on the property. She said that the name of the location would be changed, and the sign that Henry County Parks and Recs placed at the time the battlefield was purchased would be replaced with “Nash Farm Park”.
This is the biggest concern in all of this debacle. Henry County used tax payers’ money to purchase this property through eminent domain over 10 years ago because of its historical significance, not because it was a beautiful vista and green space. To eliminate the word battlefield and take away the history behind this property, the county and state stand to lose a battlefield, whose pristine condition rivals that of any National Battlefield.
This rhetoric is dangerous and sets a precedent that property that was set aside as historic can be changed at the whim of a political figure with an agenda. This is the main story and we should not lose focus of that. The current Henry County Board of Commissioners needs to take a stand and recognize the 204 acres as a battlefield where Union and Confederate soldiers gave the ultimate sacrifice.
In order for this to happen, everyone who is enraged about a public official trying to change the historical context inside a museum, needs to respectfully contact every Henry County Commissioner. Additionally, contact your state legislator and ask if he/she will agree it is a battlefield and needs to be preserved as such.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 11:14 am to dcbl
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Trump is a brief respite - we get 8 or 12 years maybe
12?
You realize that if Trump succeeds in amending the Constitution to end Presidential term limits, that means Obama will be running against him, right?
Posted on 5/25/17 at 11:15 am to PJinAtl
I think the thing that I do not understand is how one commissioner is able to demand all of this. Maybe she represents the area of the county where Nash Farm is located, but I can't believe that the entire county commission isn't required to hold votes on this before any of the changes are made.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 11:23 am to dcbl
Something that all these idiots who push for the removal of these memorials fail to understand is that Confederate Veterans are considered veterans of the United States. They may have fought for the losing side but they are still considered veterans and the removal of those memorials is shameful.
A quick google scearch will provide you with much information but here is a link to a PDF of one of the many laws concerning this matter. The bottom paragraph of this PDF says:
LINKto PDF
If people today do not like the monuments I would ask that they work to get additional monuments set next to or in close proximity to those memorials that tell the other side of the story. Simply removing the monuments and not discussing it is a bad idea. The war was awful and as a lifelong southerner I am grateful that the south lost, but the battles and victories of the Civil War did a lot to form America into what she is today.
A quick google scearch will provide you with much information but here is a link to a PDF of one of the many laws concerning this matter. The bottom paragraph of this PDF says:
LINKto PDF
quote:
(( CONFEDERATE FORCES VETERANS "SEC. 410. The Administrator shall pay to each person who served in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War a monthly pension in the same amounts and subject to the same conditions...
If people today do not like the monuments I would ask that they work to get additional monuments set next to or in close proximity to those memorials that tell the other side of the story. Simply removing the monuments and not discussing it is a bad idea. The war was awful and as a lifelong southerner I am grateful that the south lost, but the battles and victories of the Civil War did a lot to form America into what she is today.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 11:24 am to roadGator
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Mfers
They're still at 0.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 11:52 am to Machine
quote:
i can't help it if you think i was referring to the war itself when i talked about the battlefield museum.
can't fix stupid
Since this is what you said:
its a museum to US defeat. who gives a shite?
I would say you are wrong. Again.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 12:53 pm to dcbl
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So they said we will close our doors instead
Well, bye.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 12:56 pm to sugar71
Here is the resident angry black lady.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:32 pm to mmcgrath
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We don't fly the Japanese flag at Iwo Jima
Actually.....................
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:53 pm to Darkknight
Democrat here - I have no issue with confederate flags being displayed at historical sites or museums, nor did I have an issue with statues in NO. I enjoy the history and they make for a nice aesthetic in cities.
My wife, who is far more liberal than I, agrees as well. Taking down the statues especially feels like white washing our past. It's better to remember, whether you're nostalgic about it or not.
My wife, who is far more liberal than I, agrees as well. Taking down the statues especially feels like white washing our past. It's better to remember, whether you're nostalgic about it or not.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:53 pm to Darkknight
quote:
Actually.....................
Aaaaaand, he is proven wrong, again.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:55 pm to PDXDawg
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Democrat here - I have no issue with confederate flags being displayed at historical sites or museums, nor did I have an issue with statues in NO. I enjoy the history and they make for a nice aesthetic in cities.
My wife, who is far more liberal than I, agrees as well. Taking down the statues especially feels like white washing our past. It's better to remember, whether you're nostalgic about it or not.
I do feel like they should make sure that both sides of a story is told and they are not there simply to glorify the South. Gone With the Wind glorified and romanticized what was the South, and while it had a lot of beauty, slavery was a horrific part of it.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:57 pm to sugar71
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So they said we will close our doors instead
Well, bye.
You did read the part where she wanted the flags taken out of the museum altogether, right? I mean, if you don't have anything of the South in a Civil War Museum....seems rather odd, don't you think? A bit eerie, too. I mean, WWII Museums have stuff about the Japanese and the Germans, but all traces of the South has to be wiped out of our museums?
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