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Military Brass gives report. 74% are not combat ready

Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:18 pm
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Navy’s ability to use these planes is now greatly hindered as more than 60 percent of the jets are out of service.


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That number is even worse for the Marine Corps, where 74 percent of its F-18s – some of the oldest in service – are not ready for combat operations.



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“Our long-term readiness continues its insidious decline,” Vice Chief of Naval Operations Adm. William Moran testified Wednesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee.



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While we are still able to put our first team on the field, our bench is largely depleted.”



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“It’s a simple matter of supply can’t meet demand,” Moran said.



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The Air Force is the branch of the military that arguably is in the most dire straits, with aircraft numbers falling from 8,600 in 1991 to 5,500 today. There are 55 fighter squadrons, down from 134, and less than 50 percent of its combat forces are “sufficiently ready for a highly contested fight against peer adversaries,” Air Force Vice Chief Gen. Stephen W. Wilson said in reference to countries like Russia and China.



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But they’re not ready in the sense that they are not prepared to take on a peer adversary like Russia or China.”


Provide for the common defense...


Posted by VirgilCaine
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:19 pm to
Complacency is a bitch.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:20 pm to
Almost certainly the result of misuse rather than lack of funds.

For as much as we spend on the defense budget, it is indefensible for us to not operate at full readiness at any time.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:26 pm to
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Almost certainly the result of misuse rather than lack of funds.


Almost certainly sure you are in no position to know that. Almost certain that the brass is correct.


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For as much as we spend on the defense budget, it is indefensible for us to not operate at full readiness at any time.


Depends on where the money is being spent.

The one thing that is for certain, our constitution is clear that this is one area that is required to be maintained.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:30 pm to
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Almost certainly sure you are in no position to know that. Almost certain that the brass is correct.



Forgive me if I do not trust any government official about needing more money. We have, far and away, the largest budget in the world. If we can not use this exorbitant amount to even be relatively ready to operate against peer adversaries like Russia and China who spend much less, then I think it is an organizational and inefficiency problem, not a fiduciary one.

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The one thing that is for certain, our constitution is clear that this is one area that is required to be maintained.



No debate here.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:31 pm to
Pentagon paid $150 per gallon for 'green' jet fuel to promote alternative energy. The Pentagon spent up to $150 per gallon on alternative jet fuels made from algae, far more than the approximately $3 per gallon that traditional jet fuels cost, according to a new study by the Government Accountability Office.

This money should not be reported as defense spending. It should be reported as stupid government regulations spending.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:32 pm to
That's what happens when you have a President in office for eight years who couldn't give a shite about the military. Funds are really tight right now. I'm currently stationed in Hawaii and I have friends who were supposed to PCS to their next command back in December who are still here waiting for orders. The Navy does not have the money to even cut orders for some of these guys.

Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:33 pm to
Didn't take Trump long to screw that up.

/NYT
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:33 pm to
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The Navy does not have the money to even cut orders for some of these guys.



How is this even possible? Where is the money being spent?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:33 pm to
And this isn't a sudden thing - under the prior administration, the brass was willing to play along with the charade. None of them have the balls to lie to Mattis.

When you focus on being PC, "rape culture", Sexual Harassment, EO, Transgender integration, social engineering and nation building - to the exclusion of all other concerns, your warfighting abilities are going to suffer. (Even the USMC.)

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Depends on where the money is being spent.


The budget would be more than sufficient if commanders were freed of the failed PC culture and allowed to focus 100% on producing the best warfighting force possible on those dollars.

Now, you can't do that with women in combat, misguided pagan "Earth worship", and a whole host of other social engineering projects that have consumed our ability to fight a real war.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Military Brass gives report. 74% are not combat ready



This is normal.

NORMAL.

For fricks sake. Only a small portion of the armed forces are combat ready officially at any time. You cycle down and cycle up.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65130 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:37 pm to
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How is this even possible? Where is the money being spent?



That's the same question I asked when I got back to the command last month after a two month trip at sea. I was very surprised to see people who I thought I was saying good-bye to for the final time still there when I got back.
Posted by MrCarton
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:37 pm to
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Almost certainly sure you are in no position to know that. Almost certain that the brass is correct.


The brass is correct about 17% of the time. which is significantly more often than you are correct.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:38 pm to
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The budget would be more than sufficient if commanders were freed of the failed PC culture and allowed to focus 100% on producing the best warfighting force possible on those dollars.



So you would say that some of the poor operational readiness is due to the Obama administration using its executive power over military policy to enact weird liberal sentiments?

ETA: And if this is the case have you heard anything about a different change of culture under Mattis?
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53473 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:38 pm to
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Pentagon paid $150 per gallon for 'green' jet fuel to promote alternative energy. The Pentagon spent up to $150 per gallon on alternative jet fuels made from algae, far more than the approximately $3 per gallon that traditional jet fuels cost, according to a new study by the Government Accountability Office.



Obama. This has to be cleaned up
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45784 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:39 pm to
Obama's fundamental trans-formative government.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35411 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:40 pm to
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This is normal.

NORMAL.

For fricks sake. Only a small portion of the armed forces are combat ready officially at any time. You cycle down and cycle up.
That was my first question. Thank you.

2nd Question: What would it take to get nearly all of our squadrons ready for peer combat with Russia or China?

Answer: Go to war with Russia or China and insist on air to air combat.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
89552 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:41 pm to
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So you would say that some of the poor operational readiness is due to the Obama administration using its executive power over military policy to enact weird liberal sentiments?


Goes back to at least Clinton. Clinton changed the military from a warfighting organization to a nationbuilding one - the contractors and brass loved it, because that's actually more costly and timeconsuming than winning a war - like the Marshall Plan for everyone.

It really accelerated under Obama, though, particularly women in combat and transgender nonsense. Things that no only not contribute to the warfighting function, but detract from it. That and the green issues are mind numbing.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71923 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:41 pm to
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How is this even possible? Where is the money being spent?


There isn't one large pool of money that the entire Navy can draw from. It could have been spent on other priorities for those units. It could have been completely wasted. It could be that they just got shite on when the budget was finalized.
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