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re: Military Brass gives report. 74% are not combat ready
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:42 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:42 pm to RollTide1987
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I'm currently stationed in Hawaii and I have friends who were supposed to PCS to their next command back in December who are still here waiting for orders. The Navy does not have the money to even cut orders for some of these guys.
Eh... well sitting there with that nice COLA and BAH sure isn't saving them anything either.
Was amazing how much they paid us to live and work in Paradise. As a small town guy from Missouri I had more money then I knew what to do with.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 2:49 pm
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:43 pm to VirgilCaine
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Complacency is a bitch.
More like deliberate deconstruction of our military is a bitch.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:46 pm to Jjdoc
This the MIC's passive aggressive way of demanding more money. 
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:46 pm to Ace Midnight
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The budget would be more than sufficient if commanders were freed of the failed PC culture and allowed to focus 100% on producing the best warfighting force possible on those dollars.
\Exactly. When you spend "X" amount on 3 things and the government comes in and cuts "X" amount in half (for example only) and demands you add 4 things to your list (instead 3 things money being spent on you now have 7)..... something has to go lacking.
Now getting the stupidity out....
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:47 pm to cokebottleag
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This is normal.
NORMAL.
For fricks sake. Only a small portion of the armed forces are combat ready officially at any time. You cycle down and cycle up.
It's normal for 74% of your weapons to NOT WORK?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:47 pm to Jjdoc
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Shortages of parts and aging equipment are already affecting readiness, and the effects are expected to worsen. On August 4, 2000, Kenneth Bacon, the DOD Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, told reporters that spare parts are so scarce that the Air Force is made to "cannibalize" perfectly good aircraft for spare parts.39 In April, 40 percent of the Army's helicopters were assessed as being either unable or at high risk of being unable to perform their mission.40 The impact this has on America's readiness to fight wars is immense. For example, by day 60 of a two-war scenario, 44 percent of the Army's Apache helicopters and 52 percent of its Kiowa helicopters will not be available due to shortages in spare parts.41
Doom and Gloom from military commanders, saying we were incabale of fighting a war cause we weren't ready. 14 months later we were fighting a war in Afghanistan.
Strange how we were able to rev up so quickly.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:51 pm to Jjdoc
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It's normal for 74% of your weapons to NOT WORK?
They're bullshitting you. Trust me. I was an Army maintenance officer. No MCO or Chief in the army is going to report up that they are anything less than 95-99% readiness for equipment.
What is going on is they are throwing readiness numbers for UNITS at people who don't know how the army readiness cycle works. Right now, because of the draw down, units are on a 1/3 or 1/2 cycle (could be longer for some). That's 3 years of build up and training, where you are reporting NOT READY for deployment, and then NTC or JRTC for testing. Pass that, you are deemed READY for 1 year, and are technically on call or on mission.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:52 pm to Jjdoc
In fairness the military brass is part of the problem
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:53 pm to Jjdoc
If the hiring freeze stays in place you will see a very drastic degrading of military readiness over the next few years. Civilians are the backbone of military acquisition and a lot of them are retiring
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:55 pm to Tigerdev
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If the hiring freeze stays in place you will see a very drastic degrading of military readiness over the next few years. Civilians are the backbone of military acquisition and a lot of them are retiring
Civilians almost outnumber soldiers in the military.
We have more generals now than we did in 1945 with 90 divisions.
unfortunately, I don't think civilians in the DoD are included in the freeze. If they are, then fricking awesome. They are bloat at the DoD and half of them need to be gone yesterday.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:58 pm to cokebottleag
They are included for now. Ive seen the memo myself. Typically acquisition positions are exempt but not this time.
Fyi, acquisition is how we maintain our tech edge on our enemies. Hence why usually exempt... Will you be celebrating when china rolls out a plane better than our fighters?
Fyi, acquisition is how we maintain our tech edge on our enemies. Hence why usually exempt... Will you be celebrating when china rolls out a plane better than our fighters?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:12 pm to Tigerdev
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Will you be celebrating when china rolls out a plane better than our fighters?
How would said awesome plane impact us? At this point we are beyond the need of fighters.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:19 pm to DarthRebel
R&D is not a linear activity. It takes investment and effort and a lot of projects fail even in a perfect world. Reducing our ability to conduct sound military-centric R&D is going to cost us dearly in terms of breakthroughs. Not to mention the degrading readiness.
If you want to tackle the DoD budget then look to military compensation reform and how many active duty folks are performing work that civilians or contractors could do. The lifetime cost of a U.S armed services individual is astronomical.
If you want to tackle the DoD budget then look to military compensation reform and how many active duty folks are performing work that civilians or contractors could do. The lifetime cost of a U.S armed services individual is astronomical.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:21 pm to Jjdoc
Someone needs to ask them what they're doing with all their money.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:21 pm to HempHead
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Almost certainly the result of misuse rather than lack of funds.
For as much as we spend on the defense budget, it is indefensible for us to not operate at full readiness at any time.
fricking THIS!!!!
We spend 10x the next closest country on defense spending. If your shite ain't working, it's due to gross mismanagement. PERIOD.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:28 pm to Tigerdev
Is it really your opinion that more people in acquisitions giving more opinions and requesting more features is really the way to design a better fighter? That's how we got the Bradley and the F 35. Acquisitions needs a streamlined process with less people.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:29 pm to Jjdoc
Too much worrying about social engineering and less on troop readiness over the last 10 years by the higher ups.
Social engineering has driven many out of the service.
Social engineering has driven many out of the service.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:29 pm to Jjdoc
Doesn't matter. We have trained trannies in the trenches.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:37 pm to cokebottleag
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This is normal.
NORMAL.
For fricks sake. Only a small portion of the armed forces are combat ready officially at any time. You cycle down and cycle up.
If you think this is normal, When and where in the actual frick did you serve? I ask because when I was in Europe back in the 80s, shite like this just didn't fly. Unit Readiness was like a fetish for the brass.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:39 pm to TennesseeFan25
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Eh... well sitting there with that nice COLA and Per Diem sure isn't saving them anything either.
I made COLA in HI but I sure didn't get per Diem.
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