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re: Mike Lee puts the third knife in the BCRA
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:13 pm to rds dc
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:13 pm to rds dc
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This is the right answer. However, it probably doesn't help the Dems that much in the midterms.
McConnell said they were going to work on a bipartisan solution (gasp) if this didn't pass.
There likely will be no repeal. There will be fixes to Obamacare...which is what they should have been doing for the last 7 years.
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:13 pm to Iosh
Voting no to proceed isn't a final no. The House didn't have the votes either... until they did. Mitch can still thread the needle with pork and sops like more opioid relief.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:14 pm to TigerDoc
quote:Paul, Lee, and Moran aren't moderates. They're not gonna take some pork and call it a day.
Mitch can still thread the needle with pork and sops like more opioid relief.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:14 pm to rds dc
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Boom! This man speaks the truth.
Mark Meadows?Verified account @RepMarkMeadows 29m29 minutes ago
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Mark Meadows Retweeted Mike Lee
Time for full repeal of #Obamacare--let's put the same thing on President Trump's desk that we put on President Obama's desk
Mark Meadows is in The House, not the Senate.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:16 pm to a want
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And Trump said "We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare - and nobody can do that like me. We will save $'s and have much better healthcare!"
You see this is where you make this YOU vs TRUMP!
A full repeal is a win, if not better than a replace!
You just went full retard bro!
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:20 pm to Errerrerrwere
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You see this is where you make this YOU vs TRUMP!
A full repeal is a win, if not better than a replace!
You just went full retard bro!
That sounds a little bit like a melt.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:24 pm to a want
Not at all. I'm happy as a pig in shite to do a full repeal.
As a conservative it's all I could ask for.
Thanks for caring tho
As a conservative it's all I could ask for.
Thanks for caring tho
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:24 pm to rds dc
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The insurance/tax mess that they are falsely labeling as "healthcare" is an incredibly complex issue with no easy solutions.
That is what a 2700+ page bill with 10 times that number of pages of regs will get you.
Obama care was intentionally this way. To be so insidious and woven into areas no one expected (or even appreciates) so that to unwind it would be impossible.
There has never been a "fix" to this.
They should just repeal it lock, stock and barrel. Revert back to 2009 healthcare system. Pass law to address THAT system (including 100% deductibility of insurance premiums).
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:26 pm to udtiger
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They should just repeal it lock, stock and barrel. Revert back to 2009 healthcare system.
They'll never do this, because of the incalculable harm it will cause to Americans.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:28 pm to BamaAtl
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They'll never do this, because of the incalculable harm it will cause to Americans.
You are pathetic.
You would think that cars couldn't move because of all the dead bodies in the street before Obama care passed.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:28 pm to BamaAtl
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They'll never do this, because of the incalculable harm it will cause to Americans.
Like it isn't causing incalculable harm already?
GTFO
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:31 pm to Iosh
Lookie there - Lee and Moran. NYT agrees with your assessment:
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WASHINGTON — Senators Mike Lee of Utah and Jerry Moran of Kansas declared Monday night they would oppose the Senate Republican bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act, for now killing a seven-year-old promise to overturn President Barack Obama’s signature domestic achievement...
With four solid votes against the bill, Republican leaders were faced with two options: Try to go back and rewrite the bill in a way that could secure 50 Republican votes, a seeming impossibility at this point, or do as Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, promised and team with Democrats to draft a narrower, bipartisan measure to fix the flaws in the Affordable Care Act that both parties acknowledge.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:31 pm to udtiger
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They should just repeal it lock, stock and barrel. Revert back to 2009 healthcare system. Pass law to address THAT system (including 100% deductibility of insurance premiums).
How will they get the votes?
A full repeal wouldn't work under the rules of reconciliation so it would require a full 60 votes in the Senate. which would mean convincing some Dems to repeal Obamacare.
I don't see that happening.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:31 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Like it isn't causing incalculable harm already?
That would be a correct statement. ACA is not causing incalculable harm.
In fact, it's the cause of much more good than harm at present.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:33 pm to Iosh
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:34 pm to a want
I hope those gutless frickers get slaughtered at the polls.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:36 pm to Iosh
Phil Mattingly?Verified account @Phil_Mattingly 12m12 minutes ago
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Aide on Moran/Lee opposition: "More senators are ready to jump. This wasn't done without that knowledge."
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Aide on Moran/Lee opposition: "More senators are ready to jump. This wasn't done without that knowledge."
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:36 pm to ctalati32
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How will they get the votes?
A full repeal wouldn't work under the rules of reconciliation so it would require a full 60 votes in the Senate. which would mean convincing some Dems to repeal Obamacare.
I don't see that happening.
bingo the first poster on here to get it.
now add the political damage
now add the midterms are 1 year away
never fricking happening.
The current attempts at piecemeal repeal and replace of the the ACA using reconciliation is nothing more than a way to sneak past the budget voting constraints. A full repeal requires 60 votes.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:36 pm to a want
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Jerry Moran has also come out against it.
Who gives a shite!
Obamacare will be repealed.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:37 pm to Cruiserhog
They're going to have to ask the Dems for help. God this is poetic 
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