- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Midnight on a Navy Destroyer: People involved in preventing collisions
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:33 pm to upgrayedd
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:33 pm to upgrayedd
quote:
It just makes me wonder what they would do if these were hostile vessels
Well the theory is that because they are merchant vessels, the Destroyer wouldn't just blow them out the water
1
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:42 pm to Breesus
quote:
Well the theory is that because they are merchant vessels, the Destroyer wouldn't just blow them out the water
Yes, vessels are identified visually by pretty high powered cameras the second they show up on the horizon. There are books used to identify every type. An enemy combat vessel or one without obvious intentions would completely change the approach.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 11:31 pm to Lsuchs
I imagine it something like this
Posted on 8/20/17 at 11:57 pm to Kino74
Field training time was cut way back to provide the required training and education on the more important aspects such as acceptance and accommodation of transgenders, combat women in military, and which bathroom to use. 
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:24 am to JAXTiger16
What do you think about rushing and signing off on qualifications without required training actually taking place? If they are low on bodies and want to get more sleep I've seen similar happen before.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 1:08 am
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:46 am to Lsuchs
Bet there were some women in the mix
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:02 am to Lsuchs
Very congested piece of water. A choke point for maritime operations. Combine treacherous currents and some of the most violent weather on the planet with the choke point and navigation, especially at night is a blood pressure raiser. The vessels that normally navigate this area are the massive Supertankers, LNG Carriers, massive Container MV's, and equally massive Auto Carriers. The slightest of navigational errors can cause nightmares.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:05 am to Lsuchs
How about putting someone outside with binoculars?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:10 am to Devil_doge
quote:
If y'all want to get technical, this is the 4th major incident involving a US Navy ship this year.
The fourth incident also involved a ship from the 7th fleet that ran aground while trying to anchor in Tokyo Bay.
sounds like some people with stars on their collars need to be canned, not just the captains
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:15 am to Lsuchs
This is a direct result of making the military a SJW project for trannies and the offended.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:23 am to JAXTiger16
Second Burke-class destroyer to collide with massive merchant ships this summer.
There must be a lot of complacency on board to allow this to happen....or a major flaw in detection systems.
There must be a lot of complacency on board to allow this to happen....or a major flaw in detection systems.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:23 am to Lsuchs
quote:
What do you think about rushing and signing off on qualifications without required training actually taking place?
That's what work ups are for. In 23 years I never saw a CO/XO who weren't adamant with Dept Heads that non qualified were designated prior to, or very shortly after operational status.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 7:57 am to Devil_doge
If I'm the SecDef or the president and I have a single Fleet with 3 major accidents in one year, with nothing similar from the other commands, I've got the 7th Fleet commander in my office at attention, explaining why his command is so fricked up.
If we're on the 4th in a year, I've got his deputy in my office explaining how he is going to fix his new command.
If we're on the 4th in a year, I've got his deputy in my office explaining how he is going to fix his new command.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:01 am to Lsuchs
Side note:
7th fleet has around 60-70 ships.
In 12 months they have lost 6% of their total strength due to accidents.
7th fleet has around 60-70 ships.
In 12 months they have lost 6% of their total strength due to accidents.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:11 am to Centinel
quote:
The simplest answer is a breakdown in the chain of command/discipline of the ship.
Is there facebook/social media/texting available on the ship?
The helm is preoccupied either chasing pussy on the ship or chasing it from the ship.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:12 am to Lsuchs
Very cool experience. Thank you for both your service and sharing.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:19 am to cokebottleag
quote:
If I'm the SecDef or the president and I have a single Fleet with 3 major accidents in one year
Two Burkes involved with collisions. Did I forget about the third?
And yes....this will (and should) end some navy careers.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:22 am to Kino74
quote:
I can see the first as aberration but this second one is giving me a great deal of pause. Something is seriously wrong. Whether the proper training or displine hasn't been implemented or a lack of vessels causing overworked crews, it needs to found and solved
I don't understand how this can happen twice in a summer. Something big is wrong.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:46 am to member12
Mid-watch? WTF was the OOD doing? Educated guess... The OOD was the XO, or a Sr Dept Officer, F'ing doing something they weren't supposed to be doing, leaving two, possibly three non-quals, the JOOD and the Conn plus the POOW and his people, un-supervised.
Way too much blame to go around here. The entire Port Watch Asleep? I doubt it. The entire CIC having a nap? Again, unlikely.
This comes down to a failure of leadership. A complete and incomprehensible loss of the plot and situational awareness.
Gross negligence by any measure.
Way too much blame to go around here. The entire Port Watch Asleep? I doubt it. The entire CIC having a nap? Again, unlikely.
This comes down to a failure of leadership. A complete and incomprehensible loss of the plot and situational awareness.
Gross negligence by any measure.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:26 am to upgrayedd
quote:
It just makes me wonder what they would do if these were hostile vessels
I'd bet terrorists are watching. If a tanker can collide, why not a hijacked fishing vessel? Packed with explosives?
Page 2 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News