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re: Member Theresa May's brilliant move to call a snap election?

Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:52 am to
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20361 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:52 am to
Polls.

This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:35 am to
Bump...
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:41 am to
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:52 am to
The election obviously went poorly for the Conservatives, however it's not quite the earthquake people are making it out to be.

The immediate effect will be almost nill, the next UK government will look and function largely unchanged from the last.

The main thing that happened was May ruining her reputation and political career.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:57 am to
Interesting new narrative. Last week, we knew with certainty that the terror acts would only continue momentum in the direction of Brexit. We also knew that polls were irrelevant.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:59 am to
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The election obviously went poorly for the Conservatives, however it's not quite the earthquake people are making it out to be.

The immediate effect will be almost nill, the next UK government will look and function largely unchanged from the last.

The main thing that happened was May ruining her reputation and political career.



Fascinating spin.

By any measure this was a truck wreck for May. Having to go to a minority party in attempt to form a government has hamstrung her on any brexit negotiations. She should have resigned and let someone else have a go at it.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 10:01 am to
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The immediate effect will be almost nill, the next UK government will look and function largely unchanged from the last.


Can anyone call a new election? Or is just the party in power?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 10:07 am to
They have to have an election every so often (5 years), but party in power can call an early election. Tories had big polling lead and gambled that they'd pick up seats. Didn't work out that way.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 10:18 am to
The Labour party got 50 less seats than the Conservatives and a lower % of the vote and yet somehow they "won" the election?

Losing is the new winning for the left I guess.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:11 am to
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The Labour party got 50 less seats than the Conservatives and a lower % of the vote and yet somehow they "won" the election?

Losing is the new winning for the left I guess.
Their position was strengthened relative to what it was based purely on an unnecessary election called by the party that is now relatively weakened. This isn't hard to understand.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:14 am to
She needs to step down. If only Nigel Farage could be PM.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:14 am to
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The immediate effect will be almost nill, the next UK government will look and function largely unchanged from the last.
DUP wants a soft Brexit. Tories will require DUP votes for literally everything until the next election. You do the math.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 11:21 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:15 am to
Tell me what the difference is between a soft and hard brexit like I'm 5
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45171 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:17 am to
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Interesting new narrative. Last week, we knew with certainty that the terror acts would only continue momentum in the direction of Brexit.

The previous Conservative PM David Cameron and Theresa May both campaigned against Brexit.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:18 am to
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Tell me what the difference is between a soft and hard brexit like I'm 5
Soft brexit = Norway (single market, customs union, free movement, retain some EU standards)
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45171 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:21 am to
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DUP wants a soft Brexit. Cons will require DUP votes for literally everything until the next election. You do the math.

But they still want Brexit, they have made that clear in their statements.

The more interesting aspect is their bright red line opposition to gay marriage. They say they will never compromise on it. That is in direct conflict with the Conservative party, much more so than Brexit.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:23 am to
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But they still want Brexit, they have made that clear in their statements.
Yes but Theresa May wanted a hard Brexit. That's why "the immediate effect will be nil" is retarded. Negotiations start next week and now the EU knows that the Tories are depending on support from a party for whom a physical border is a red line.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 11:24 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:27 am to
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DUP wants a soft Brexit. Tories will require DUP votes for literally everything until the next election. You do the math.



They want brexit, just not leaving the EU...............
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21858 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:27 am to
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Well McFly most of us can't travel through time so the future is always a hypothetical.


Not for Trump. He has that time machine after all.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:27 am to
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