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re: McConnell's statement on ObamaCare vote; repeal of ObamaCare with two year delay
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:04 am to Cruiserhog
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:04 am to Cruiserhog
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my bad typo...it was 50 percent in the poll released today.
Poor guy. Still believes the polls. So easily humored.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:05 am to Revelator
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So repeal, but the repeal takes two years to implement?
Of course - you have to do something to protect the victims of Obamacare that the DEMs rammed down their throats.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:06 am to dbeck
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They will try to squeeze some extra legislation into the ACA repeal bill which will cause it to fail.
It will have to have some incorporate some coverage for those who are inflicted with Obamacare now.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:07 am to Sentrius
I think he realizes this charade of repealing Obamacare to lower premiums and deductibles is up for this term, and is trying to throw one more pointless gambit out there to say "look, we tried, I even tweeted, like Trump does".
And no, he's bluffing them. He is crossing his fingers this gets shot down. The last thing in the world he wants is to straight repeal the ACA.
Or it's a murder suicide on Trump 2020 (remember this wouldn't kick in until 2019). Because if there's anything that's worse than doing nothing while premiums rise, coverage dwindles and markets wobble, it's taking over the whole process and accelerating everything going wrong while making insurance unaffordable for tens of millions.
And no, he's bluffing them. He is crossing his fingers this gets shot down. The last thing in the world he wants is to straight repeal the ACA.
Or it's a murder suicide on Trump 2020 (remember this wouldn't kick in until 2019). Because if there's anything that's worse than doing nothing while premiums rise, coverage dwindles and markets wobble, it's taking over the whole process and accelerating everything going wrong while making insurance unaffordable for tens of millions.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:09 am to Errerrerrwere
54% is much more popular than anything else that's been suggested.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:12 am to Mephistopheles
And someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but a straight repeal takes 60 votes right? Because the EHBs, exchanges, mental health parity etc, don't count for reconciliation, only direct spending does.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:12 am to Mephistopheles
The GOP has already committed suicide. Full repeal and actually trying to work out a serious healthcare overhaul of the entire system is their only chance for revival.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:13 am to Mephistopheles
quote:it is more popular BECAUSE of the alternatives being presented.
54% is much more popular than anything else that's been suggested.
Not even 6 months ago, the law was fairly unpopular. It was unpopular among voters that voted in the 2016 election according to exit polls.
If bernie or hillary were in office and democrats thought medicare-for-all was attainable, the ACA would have less support from democratic voters.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:18 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yep. I remember. I was there. I seen it. The ACA got dragged for 8 years and then millions of people came out of nowhere to say it was literally saving their life right now this moment while they were speaking this sentence.
The polemicism in this country is a headfrick.
The polemicism in this country is a headfrick.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:20 am to Mephistopheles
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And someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but a straight repeal takes 60 votes right?
I can't answer this for sure but I know whatever the GOP passed in 2015 made it to Obama's desk and there's no way that had 60 votes.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:20 am to Revelator
2 years, that way it won't go into effect until after the mid term elections.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:22 am to DallasTiger11
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I can't answer this for sure but I know whatever the GOP passed in 2015 made it to Obama's desk and there's no way that had 60 votes.
Yes. And if it doesn't happen this time. It's AGAIN on the Dems. They will be dying on their swords and will be a bloodbath for the mid terms.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:22 am to Tyrusrex
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2 years, that way it won't go into effect until after the mid term elections.
2017 + 2 = 2019
2020 mid terms.
God I love math.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:24 am to Mephistopheles
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Yep. I remember. I was there. I seen it. The ACA got dragged for 8 years and then millions of people came out of nowhere to say it was literally saving their life right now this moment while they were speaking this sentence.
The law magically became more popular when the GOP fricked up its alternative plans.
The majority of americans at the moment want to reform the ACA. I'd love to see a poll question ask the opinion of unreformed aca
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:26 am to Errerrerrwere
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2017 + 2 = 2019
2020 mid terms.
God I love math.
Wat
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:30 am to DallasTiger11
Reread the thread.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:48 am to Errerrerrwere
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Poor guy. Still believes the polls. So easily humored.
hey dumbass....
if the polls are wrong why isnt Trumps agenda getting done.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:03 am to Errerrerrwere
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2017 + 2 = 2019
2020 mid terms.
God I love math.
Ummmm.....
So what would you call 2018?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:12 am to Errerrerrwere
2018 = midterm elections ie between presidential elections. 2018<2019 QED 2019 is after the 2018 elections. Math + Logic = hard.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:01 am to LSUTigersVCURams
quote:meth is bad for you baw, affects judgement.
Mitch McConnell is an absolutely brilliant tactician. We are lucky to have him.
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