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re: Many in intellegence community think Bergdahl was active collaborator w/ Taliban
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:34 pm to TROLA
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:34 pm to TROLA
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but he did sign this rule into law..
Obama legally broke the law as written. But he's also legally pretty much in the clear.
This is funny to me on some level. Why can't we all laugh about it?
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:36 pm to Navytiger74
Because,...................Impeachment, brah
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:38 pm to Navytiger74
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The signing statement itself challenged the law.
And Obama came out in 2007 against signing statements and promised he would not use one when he was President. If what he did wasn't illegal, it sure as hell was hypocritical.
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In all issues pertaining to the Warpowers act, presidents note that they concur "pursuant to" and not "in accordance with" arguably unconstitutional statutes.
The War Powers Act is in and of itself unconstitutional. But that's an argument for another day.
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Rules limiting this kind of executive authority would not withstand constitutional challenge.
That's your own opinion.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:42 pm to RollTide1987
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And Obama came out in 2007 against signing statements and promised he would not use one when he was President. If what he did wasn't illegal, it sure as hell was hypocritical.
Obama in 2007 was an idealistic broke-dick Senator from a state whose influence peaked 60 years ago. Obama in 2014 is kind of a different animal.
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The War Powers Act is in and of itself unconstitutional
My opinion of you just rose immeasurably. That doesn't and shouldn't mean anything, but you are really, really right.
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That's your own opinion.
It is, but insofar as it would ultimately be the opinion of any federal court up and including SCOTUS, I'm comfortable with it.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:58 pm to Navytiger74
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The War Powers Act is in and of itself unconstitutional
Posted on 6/2/14 at 8:41 pm to constant cough
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You probably don't think Fast & Furious or any of Obama's other scandals are impeachable. So it's not like you're a good judge of what is or isn't impeachable.
Some of the people on here are so far up Obama's butt that he has to give them a straw just to breathe. And when history proves Obama to be the traitor he most assuredly is, and they realize just how horribly duped they were for constantly shilling for him they still won't care and that's a very sad commentary.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:39 pm to Revelator
What if another president is elected and shite keeps going on just fine?
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:49 pm to Lsut81
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However, I think if Obama did indeed circumvent Congress to release these 5 AQ higher ups, then it is getting pretty fricking close
Taliban, but I agree 100% never the less.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 9:50 pm to FT
Anyway, this whole story is weird as frick. There has to be more to it than we know at this point. I mean, wtf is going on with this shite .
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:18 pm to goldennugget
Barack Obama is emptying Gitmo by going around Congress with prisoner swaps.
This won't be the last.
This won't be the last.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:22 pm to baybeefeetz
Yeah. I can't get an angle on why this (or any) Admin would make this move. Any positive or would be short lived and - God forbid - there's another terrorist attack that can be attributed to the Taliban in any way, Republicans sweep offices across the country.
What's the motivation for this exchange? It's been working for years so the VA argument isn't valid. That's just icing.
What's the motivation for this exchange? It's been working for years so the VA argument isn't valid. That's just icing.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:23 pm to FT
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What if another president is elected and shite keeps going on just fine?
Since things aren't fine now, it would be impossible for them to continue as such.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:14 pm to Revelator
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Some of the people on here are so far up Obama's butt that he has to give them a straw just to breathe.
It's just sick the way liberals cover for this joker. He lied about what caused the deaths of our Ambassador and three others...now 6 more Americans are killed while searching for this traitor so he brings him home as a hero.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:18 pm to stampman
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It's just sick the way liberals cover for this joker
To be fair I haven't heard anyone Liberal say that this was a good deal. Infact the only ones I have heard that were happy were ultra conservatives like my mom. It probably has more to do with the fact that she does all the "My Son is My Hero" bull shite. But, Conservatives would have shat a brick if we left a "POW" downrange.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:24 pm to FunkasaurusReb
I don't know of a single person who is happy about this, regardless of political persuasion. This deal smells like an open sewer in the August heat.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:28 pm to FunkasaurusReb
quote:Wonder why?
To be fair I haven't heard anyone Liberal say that this was a good deal.
quote:So mom wants a son back.
Infact the only ones I have heard that were happy were ultra conservatives like my mom. It probably has more to do with the fact that she does all the "My Son is My Hero" bull shite.
quote:Orly?
But, Conservatives would have shat a brick if we left a "POW" downrange.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:53 pm to Jbird
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But, Conservatives would have shat a brick if we left a "POW" downrange. Orly?
Yes, there would have been a shitstorm on the right if we had withdraw and left a "POW". If anyone is saying that they wouldn't be mad if a pow was left when we left then they are lying or in the small minority that wish death or injury to US service members. I truly don't think that it was the worst thing to bring him back, but if it was me he would rot. It was President Obamas call and he gets paid the big bucks, and at the end it was his reputation at hand.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:01 am to FunkasaurusReb
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I truly don't think that it was the worst thing to bring him back,
It's not so much bringing the prick back, but the high price that was paid to accomplish it. We're there for two and half more years and we could have waited a very short while for the new government to take over and bring them into the negotiations on his release. Karzai had become impossible to work with on any issue. The new govt. will have to deal with a rejuvenated Taliban for a long time and this will make their task that much more difficult. It's not like it was do it right now (after 5 years) or leave him behind for good. That's just what Rice's comments yesterday want you to believe. It was done hastily for some other reason than his life suddenly being in danger.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:15 am to NHTIGER
We went in and got OBL. We couldn't go in and get this guy when we knew where he was? I would have left him there to rot and not wasted a single tear BUT if we had to get him back it didn't have to happen like this. The cost was way too high.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:26 am to LSUGrrrl
I agree, we gave up too much for him (which a penny would have been giving up too much for him). Pres. Obama didn't want to get hounded, and maybe he truly wants to be a good leader, about leaving a "man behind". I think it's a leadership judgment call. I would have personally been more pissed off if we went in SF or Seals and one of them had died or he ran away, and then bring him back to only let him rot in a jail. How would that have looked if we went in to snatch him and he shoots at them? I want a hanging until dead judgment, but I highly highly doubt that will happen.
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