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re: Many in intellegence community think Bergdahl was active collaborator w/ Taliban

Posted on 6/2/14 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 5:53 pm to
This has "Homeland" written all over it
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:03 pm to
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It evidences an historical understanding of the gravity of impeachment--and puts the worthiness of particular executive actions into perspective.



Bill Clinton was impeached by Congress for lying about receiving a blow job from a White House intern.

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:04 pm to
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lying under oath


Important distinction
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:16 pm to
To that end, it must be said that President Obama broke the law when he failed to notify Congress in advance of this prisoner exchange. That is an impeachable offense in and of itself.

I'm not saying he should be impeached, mind you, but it must be noted that he broke a law - quite publicly I might add.

Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:18 pm to
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Bill Clinton was impeached by Congress for lying about receiving a blow job from a White House intern.


1. He was impeached primarily for perjury.

2. That's a poor example considering, I don't know, Iran-Contra.

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:23 pm to
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To that end, it must be said that President Obama broke the law when he failed to notify Congress in advance of this prisoner exchange. That is an impeachable offense in and of itself.

I'm not saying he should be impeached, mind you, but it must be noted that he broke a law - quite publicly I might add.


Seems pretty clear-cut that he did. I don't know the jurisprudence on breaking a law you eventually challenge on constitutional grounds.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:32 pm to
How about we save the wasted money, time, and effort and just let the guy live out his lame duck term. Impeachment would be a joke, and probably only serve to martyr the guy. Your new President, Joe Biden! Lol.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:32 pm to
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1. He was impeached primarily for perjury.



And for obstruction of justice, a pretty serious charge.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:37 pm to
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And for obstruction of justice, a pretty serious charge.


One of those is much more clear-cut than the other.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35396 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:38 pm to
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And for obstruction of justice, a pretty serious charge
He obstructed Ken Starr from finding out about his blowjob.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35396 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:41 pm to
BTW, I think there should be a law against asking someone about a blowjob under oath unless that blowjob directly led to a crime.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:52 pm to
Fox news?

Enjoy the the hot waterheads but please don't take them seriously.

This is the same news organization that held the water for retards Iraq lie. 0 credibility.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18073 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:52 pm to
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I think there should be a law against asking someone about a blowjob


He perjured himself during questioning on the Paula Jones matter, too. #waronwomen
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:21 pm to
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One of those is much more clear-cut than the other.



He is the President of the United States, the head of the Executive Branch, charged with enforcing the laws set forth by Congress. He broke the law by not informing Congress of this prisoner exchange thirty days out. That, by definition, is an impeachable offense.

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:24 pm to
He is also the Commander-in-Chief who is responsible for leading our military endeavors.

It is arguable that obtaining the safe release of an American soldier falls under this authority.

This is really a constitutional question, but I doubt it gets up to the Supreme Court.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:26 pm to
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charged with enforcing the laws set forth by Congress.


Pardon and reprieve, including held prisoners of war, are well within the sole province of any executive--especially one of the character of an American President. The signing statement itself challenged the law. In all issues pertaining to the Warpowers act, presidents note that they concur "pursuant to" and not "in accordance with" arguably unconstitutional statutes. Rules limiting this kind of executive authority would not withstand constitutional challenge.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:28 pm to
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He is the President of the United States, the head of the Executive Branch, charged with enforcing the laws set forth by Congress. He broke the law by not informing Congress of this prisoner exchange thirty days out. That, by definition, is an impeachable offense.



it's pretty black and white
Posted by HarveyDent
Harvey
Member since May 2014
58 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:31 pm to
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it's pretty black and white


Frick you, u racist.

Wait. Wut?
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12334 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:31 pm to
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Seems pretty clear-cut that he did. I don't know the jurisprudence on breaking a law you eventually challenge on constitutional grounds.


Maybe I'm missing something but he did sign this rule into law.. Was it part of some blockbuster bill where this was a single paragraph issue not worth vetoing over and if yes, are they actively challenging the law as written?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 6/2/14 at 7:33 pm to
Yeah, it was included in the National Defense Authorization Act.
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