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re: LOL, so the eyewitness was in on the robbery too...
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:56 pm to CptBengal
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:56 pm to CptBengal
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No. The intitial contact wasnt because he was a suspect.
Just an aisde, but many of you lawyers that post on TD seem to be very poor in dealing with words and reading critically
LOL! I only just read the ticker on the bottom just now. It said "BREAKING NEWS! OFFICER DIDN'T KNOW BROWN WAS A SUSPECT!" I'm sorry that it's not breaking news on the Poliboard.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:36 pm to CherryGarciaMan
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It's the response of the police
because
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another inner city youth robbed a store and got killed. That happens with so much regularity
Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:38 pm to SabiDojo
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SabiDojo
I just dont like your kind....with your fancy laws and statues.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:08 pm to Rex
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At this point there really is no reason to accept that Michael Brown held up his hands in surrender.
The police chief just said that the shooting officer knew nothing about the convenience store robbery before the deadly encounter on the street
Reasonable response, but it is not accurate AT ALL.
I know that's what is being reported, but there is a very important distinction.
The officer did not know about the robbery before the INITIAL encounter. That encounter was when Brown and Johnson were walking in the middle of the street and the officer told them to move.
The officer then moved a ways down the road and continued to watch them.
THEN he got notice of the robbery. Brown and Johnson matched the suspects and the officer backed down the street to encounter them again.
It is a HUGE difference and the media and all are mis-representing that fact.
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but we can surely conclude that Michael thought he was being apprehended for the crime and acted violently accordingly.
This is correct.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:37 pm to Meauxjeaux
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The officer did not know about the robbery before the INITIAL encounter. That encounter was when Brown and Johnson were walking in the middle of the street and the officer told them to move. The officer then moved a ways down the road and continued to watch them. THEN he got notice of the robbery. Brown and Johnson matched the suspects and the officer backed down the street to encounter them again.
I hope that's the case, but what's your source for that? The Chief had ample opportunity to say so but didn't. Instead, he painted the two incidents as unrelated.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:56 pm to NHTIGER
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Johnson was giving his account of what happened to every reporter who would listen, but had avoided giving it to the police until a day or so ago. Once they had him on record, having signed his witness statement (if in fact he told them the same story he had previously told everyone else), the time was right to release the video, which clearly shows Johnson's presence in the store, thus invalidating his eyewitness account of how the entire confrontation unfolded.
Or not:
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The lawyer for Johnson, who was walking with Michael Brown when Wilson fatally shot Brown, said Johnson told authorities about the cigar theft earlier this week.
“He told them about the cigarillos and that Big Mike took cigarillos,” said the lawyer, former St. Louis Mayor Freeman Bosley Jr.
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Asked whether Dorian Johnson will be charged, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson said today, "No. We determined he didn't steal anything or use force."
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:16 pm to PJinAtl
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, it was wise to withhold this information until some form of protection could be arranged for the officer and his family.
Bc they definitely would have with held the name of someone who shot one of their own, amirite?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:20 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Bc they definitely would have with held the name of someone who shot one of their own, amirite?
The fact you cant see the difference between the two situations is fairly telling.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:22 pm to kilo
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The fact you cant see the difference between the two situations is fairly telling.
One is privileged and one is not....that you can't see the inequity is telling.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:24 pm to kilo
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The fact you cant see the difference between the two situations is fairly telling.
In one situation a cop dies, in another situation a regular citizen dies
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:25 pm to cwill
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One is privileged and one is not....that you can't see the inequity is telling.
Jesus some of you are obtuse.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:25 pm to cwill
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One is privileged and one is not....that you can't see the inequity is telling.
Ding ding ding. Dude is a cop and/or huge cop apologist. Its quite telling from his amount of posting on this board since this whole situation started. How much has he posted here prior?
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:27 pm to PJinAtl
quote:So that would have been Sunday; Monday at the latest. The information was released today.
t was wise to withhold this information until some form of protection could be arranged for the officer and his family.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:29 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Its in my area where i Live. Its interesting to get a take from a cross section of people outside the area. I have repeatedly stated that I have not and will not pass judgment until all the facts are presented. If the cop did the deed he will need to be punished accordingly.
Dropping ad hominems on me calling me an "apologist" while you and others irrationally pass judgment is comical.
I dont know what happened. You already convicted the officer.
There is a difference between and officer involved shooting and a run of the mill homicide. Whether you want to acknowledge this fact or not is up o you.
Dropping ad hominems on me calling me an "apologist" while you and others irrationally pass judgment is comical.
I dont know what happened. You already convicted the officer.
There is a difference between and officer involved shooting and a run of the mill homicide. Whether you want to acknowledge this fact or not is up o you.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:32 pm to kilo
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Dropping ad hominems on me calling me an "apologist" while you and others irrationally pass judgment is comical.
What judgement have I passed regarding this situation? Besides my baseline hatred of police, what is my view on this whole situation?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:33 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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What judgement have I passed
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Besides my baseline hatred of police
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:33 pm to kilo
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I dont know what happened. You already convicted the officer.
When did I do that? Sure I distrust police, but where did I say he was for sure guilty?
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There is a difference between and officer involved shooting and a run of the mill homicide. Whether you want to acknowledge this fact or not is up o you.
You keep saying this, but you have yet to articulate what these differences are.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:33 pm to SabiDojo
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If the truth does come out that Brown attacked the police officers, then that only magnifies the gross incompetence of the mayor's office and the chief of police in handling the release of information.
After watching those "Dirty Harry" movies, why would anyone believe the Mayor and Chief of Police.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:33 pm to kilo
quote:Hypotheticals?
The fact you cant see the difference between the two situations is fairly telling.
For example, help us see the difference between a cop who shoots a mentally disabled man 5 times in the back, and the disabled man who is killed as a result.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:35 pm to kilo
Yes, I do not like police. That has nothing to do with this situation.
But you accused me of passing judgement and convicting this officer. When did I do so?
But you accused me of passing judgement and convicting this officer. When did I do so?
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