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re: Let's Have a Good 'Ol Fashioned Debate In Light of a Man who Kills in the Name of Religion

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Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:38 am to
When I was younger I would look down on Toddy because he's gay. Now, I just look down on Toddy because he's a crybaby, frantic socialist/commie bastard that is still fighting a war that was won by people much braver than he.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:44 am to
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Let's Have a Good 'Ol Fashioned Debate


Poster posts a thoughtful rebuttal and you reply with this?

quote:

Aaaannnnndddd have a downvote





Not only are you disingenuous with your asinine topic, but you're a coward and childlike. You had no intention of having debate. You simply thought you had a "gotcha", then scurried away. Typical.


Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:44 am to
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Here's what I am looking for a debate on:


You are in no way looking for a debate. You are pointing out an isolated incident and attempting to use it to "prove" that Christianity is no different that Islam.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78563 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:44 am to
As neither a Christian or Muslim I'd like to point out the difference between the terms " freakish misguided and savage anomaly that is immediately condemned by Every single person in the society" to " regular occurrence across dozens of countries that has the enthusiastic support of many in the broader culture including the local religious leaders " and see if you can tell which applies to which religion.

Sloppy Moral relativist is sloppy.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14808 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:46 am to
The point I've made several times on this board that has gotten me labeled a liberal despite my generally conservative positions is that generalizing people is stupid, particularly when you lack experience with those people. Now that doesn't mean you can't exercise caution when it comes to matters of national security and border control, but anybody worth a shite knows to judge individuals based on their merits.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:49 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42578 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:46 am to
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Let's hear it, Christian apologists; how can you not denounce Christianity for the acts of an individual, yet do it for Islam?

You will have to debate yourself - there is no debate because there is literally nobody who will take up the straw man you posit.

Do you know of anyone defending this action? If so - go find them and debate them.

pfft
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140383 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:49 am to
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Now that doesn't mean you can't exercise caution when it comes to matters of national security and border control, but anybody worth a shite knows to judge the individuals based on their merits.


Try this in rural Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, etc.

Try to judge the individuals.

ETA: In other words, would you rather wander around rural "Christian America" or rural Islamic country with terrorist organizations abound.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:50 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:49 am to
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1) How is murdering your own daughter for religious reasons any different than a Muslim who murders people for the same?

It isn't. It is horrible, and a sin.

But this is an outlier of an "honor killing" story. This is a rarity among non-muslim faiths, and you know it.

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2) In light of this story, and any other incidents where a Christian commits a crime because of his religion, is it fair to discount an entire religion because of this?
How common are stories like this?

You dredge the ocean to come up with one story like this, and draw an equivalency?

Because one dude shot up planned parenthood a while back, does that make Evangelicals as bad as ISIS?

Get the frick out of here, son. . .grown ups are talking.

Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14808 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:50 am to
So what your saying is write off anybody from those countries as an a-hole before you even meet them. Ok. Got it.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29745 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:51 am to
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Let's not and say we did


My old man used to say that. Miss that guy.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140383 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:51 am to
If you got that then you didn't get it at all.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14808 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:52 am to
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ETA: In other words, would you rather wander around rural "Christian America" or rural Islamic country with terrorist organizations abound.


Quite the leap to get to that conclusion from what I wrote. Par for the course for you.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42578 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:52 am to

Great post in its entirety, but the below quote is a slant I have not given a lot of thought to.

quote:

It's the government of these Muslim countries that are the problem. They allow extreme views that are outdated to exist and it gives the extremist liberties to grow. I fully believe that if a country governed through a Christian philosophy violent fringe groups would grow there eventually. It's the nature of humanity.


Well done indeed.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140383 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:53 am to
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to that conclusion


One problem. I didn't make a conclusion.

You wanna fight or something? Why so abrasive?
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14808 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:53 am to
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If you got that then you didn't get it at all.


You clearly didn't get what I wrote.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:54 am to
It is not different. He is wrong.

/thread
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:54 am to
Crap like this is what is waking America up to the fact that marxist/socialist liberalism is a mental disorder they want to distance themselves from. Congratulations.

Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14808 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:54 am to
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One problem. I didn't make a conclusion.

You wanna fight or something? Why so abrasive?


You're the one taking a non-controversial position and trying to turn it on its head.

This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:56 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:57 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140383 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:57 am to
Actually I did. You want to judge each individual. I am fine with that. But would you rather do that in one the of the Islamic countries I mentioned or here?

Finding out who they are inside there may lead them to finding out your insides there.

It's not a simple judge every one of them as individuals. There's many of them that would take your life for doing so. It's also true that many of them would feed you and take care of you.

I'd rather be lost in a non-Islamic country. Seems less dangerous. Agree or disagree?
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