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re: Judge: Jury Sees Secret Files or Trump Wins

Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:49 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:49 am to
The group of power monger crooks in lawfare behind this ....PAID a KGB agent to be an FBI informant to cocoon them from anyone knowing they set- up Trump like they set up the MI governor getting kidnapped.

And now we are all suppose to forget all of their grand jury leaks to assets in the media , AKA reporters?

We are to forget they tried Trump in the media by saying Trump had THE NUCLEAR CODES.

They don't want it known that every President did what Trump did and WJC fought the snooty archives people AND WON! Biden OTOH: had no declassification authority or immunity, and sold us out to several countries and aided Iran.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:54 am to
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If they don’t show… they cannot just “pinkie swear” as to the contents.


The same group of people that pinkie swear Trump! said there will be a bloodbath if Biden is elected.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56515 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:55 am to
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And if the video doesn't exist


The documents do exist.

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Sure, which doesn't always require seeing "how the sausage is made".


What a dumb analogy. The documents are the sausage.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:58 am to
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A jury doesn't get to demand to see video of a surgery to make a determination that surgical medical records reflect what occurred. The doctor testifies to that.


The doctor…

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118809 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:59 am to
When the federal government want's to get around laws that protect American citizens from their overreach they claim "national security".

quote:

The first option would require Smith to allow any of the randomly called potential jurors in this rural stretch of South Florida to suddenly have access to what prosecutors have described as extremely alarming national secrets.


And there it is.

Claiming national security is a lawfare game this DOJ plays.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:01 am to
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TBoy

You should modify your username to LOW TBoy
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:03 am to
Meanwhile, all past presidents have warehouses full of presidential records.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19508 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:03 am to
Meanwhile, all past presidents have warehouses full of presidential records.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63520 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:03 am to
What’s the point? A jury of laypersons should decide whether something should be classified? Their opinion is irrelevant. Once a document is officially classified, the law regulating same is applicable.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:04 am to
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Show them to the jurors under controlled circumstances. That isn’t terribly difficult. But they should also monitor the jurors to see if they have any improper contacts with outside agents. Advise the jurors that all of this is going on, and get on with it.


I thought classified material should be kept and guarded to the most stringent measures.


As long as you aren’t Joe Biden, of course…
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8377 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:05 am to
....we all know what's going on here with this absurd lawfare witchhunt.

Trump 2024 - They get past him - They're coming after us
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 9:31 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118809 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:05 am to
If the documents used in this lawfare case were really "national security" as the Jack Smith claims do you really believe our DoD and generals would have allowed this clown show in the DOJ to bring these charges against our former CiC and risk exposing vulnerabilities to foreign adversaries?

There is real national security, then there is hoax national security that this DOJ National Security Division has weaponized "national security".

Call their asses out Judge Cannon. Good job.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39486 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:06 am to
I dont think they care if it means jailing Trump.

They'd leak just about anything to take his scalp.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79687 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:06 am to
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What’s the point? A jury of laypersons should decide whether something should be classified? Their opinion is irrelevant. Once a document is officially classified, the law regulating same is applicable.




What a tremendous insight into how you really think and what kind of a “lawyer” you must’ve been.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118809 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:07 am to
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A jury of laypersons should decide whether something should be classified?


That is not the issue in this case.

In fact there are NO classified documents at issue in this case, despite what the media says.

READ THE INDICTMENT.

There are "national security" documents.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 9:10 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118809 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:09 am to
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classified material


There is none.

It's "national security" material as declared by the National Security Division of the DOJ.
Posted by loogaroo
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Member since Dec 2005
30647 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:10 am to
Didn't Trump say they are declassified?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118809 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:14 am to
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Didn't Trump say they are declassified?




Yes.

Jack is not even charging Trump with mishandling or possessing classified documents but the "classified documents" label gets published by the media like it's fact. Trump is being charged under the espionage act for possessing "national security" documents that the DOJ says they own. That's charges 1-32. The remaining charges (33-36 IIRC) are obstruction charges because Trump did not get the documents to Jack's grand jury in Washington DC in a timely manner.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45763 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:16 am to
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what if he's just a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory?

case dismissed right, turd?
Well, to be fair, at his age Trump may, in fact, have some memory issues, and that is no sin, but Trump could never be called "sympathetic".
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
8701 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:17 am to
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The same group of people that pinkie swear Trump! said there will be a bloodbath if Biden is elected.


Even Elon Musk had to comment on the .......

Lying Media!!
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 9:19 am
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