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John Kelly brings truth to the table for all to see.. more deaths than 12 years of Vietnam

Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:31 am
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:31 am
-It’s the highest number of drug-related deaths our country has ever seen. It’s more deaths than the peak of the AIDS epidemic in 1995

-In a single year, we’ve lost nearly as many Americans to drug overdose as we lost in battle in World War I.

-Almost as many as was lost in 12 years in Vietnam.

-That number—as high as it is—says nothing about the long-term health damage to our citizens who survive

-the extremes of crime and violence inherent in the illegal-drug enterprise.

-The damage TCOs do is not only violence and potential terror. It is also vast tonnages of marijuana and hard drugs—cocaine, heroin, counterfeit opiates, fentanyl, and meth amphetamines—they smuggle across our borders to feed both the recreational and addictive U.S. drug demand.



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This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 10:32 am
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:36 am to
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Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary John Kelly has largely blamed Latin American drug cartels for the unprecedented 52,000-plus drug overdose deaths in America during 2015 alone


But locks up an exponential more number of users than cartel members.

Wierd. Why punish the victims, if he truly believes what he says?
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 10:37 am
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:38 am to
So your saying the current course of enforcement and lack of education and rehabilitation isnt working
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:38 am to
We should mount a military type struggle against drugs, maybe like a war on drugs or something.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:39 am to
So...more war on drugs?

I think we should have an opt out society...
Pick a couple states and open them for a free-for-all...no laws, no government

Kansas is probably a good choice
Posted by IceTiger
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:39 am to
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war on drugs


I lol'd
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:40 am to
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52,000-plus drug overdose deaths in America during 2015 alone


That is a crazy amount. Didn't think it was anywhere near that big of a number.

Drugs can come in with impunity. For every backpack of weed or meth they catch, 10+ come in undetected. Hopefully that has been curtailed with DJT Admin.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:40 am to
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But locks up an exponential more number of users than cartel members.


3 months in is going to right the ship after 8 years of turning it to this point?

Get real.

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Wierd. Why punish the victims, if he truly believes what he says?


What's even more weird is the fact that you think locking up is more punishment than death...


Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:41 am to
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But locks up an exponential more number of users than cartel members.

Wierd. Why punish the victims, if he truly believes what he says?


It's not weird at all. We can only control what we can control. We have zero control over the supply, unless you wish us to invade Mexico and other nations to take down cartel members. We can however control the demand by placing those who use drugs into jail .

Of course when we DO get a supplier, he goes to jail to , or she.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:41 am to
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So your saying the current course of enforcement


I'm saying 8 years of moving us to this point has to be reversed.

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:42 am to
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education and rehabilitation


get that hippie shite out of here! Only punishment works
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:42 am to
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We should mount a military type struggle against drugs, maybe like a war on drugs or something.


I think that name is trademarked. LOL
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
421771 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:42 am to
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What's even more weird is the fact that you think locking up is more punishment than death...

i think the issue is that the policy of putting them in prison doesn't divert them from the path leading towards death
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12299 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:45 am to
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I'm saying 8 years of moving us to this point has to be reversed.


What exactly occurred in the past 8 years that led us to the current numbers..
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:47 am to
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What exactly occurred in the past 8 years that led us to the current numbers..




Hmmm, rampant prescribing of opiates that hooks millions;

then take opiates away...

na thats not it
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:48 am to
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maybe like a war on drugs or something


If we would go full Duterte in the war on drugs it would actually accomplish something. Enough of this grab assing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:48 am to
I the war on drugs, drugs won. Time to rethink our approach
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26677 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:49 am to
What is your level of sympathy for someone who dies of cancer from cigarettes or liver failure from alcohol, compared to someone who dies of drug overdose?

I have no sympathy for either.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:49 am to
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Why punish the victims

Voluntary drug users ARE NOT victims brah
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:49 am to
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maybe like a war on drugs


You don't have a war on drugs. You have a tongue in cheek war



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