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re: Joe McKnight Shooter Arrested (finally) - Sheriff runs his mouth
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:59 am to Kino74
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:59 am to Kino74
quote:That was to a reporter. Not the police. The sheriff did address that the day after and said that they believe they talked to the same person. Dismissed the account of what was reported but didn't explain.
Kino74
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 10:01 am
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:00 am to mmcgrath
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That was to a reporter. Not the police.
Then why did the police address it?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:06 am to mmcgrath
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The word reasonable isn't in the law. You would have to a) identify the provocation and b) determine that it would lead to an average person killing someone.
Come on, we all know you are smarter than this. Reasonable is synonymous with average. An average person is reasonable, and a reasonable person is average. In many laws they are combined as in an average reasonable person.
Very little evidence has been made public. I hope you never sit on a jury since you appear to be prone to rushing to conclusions.
One piece of hearsay evidence that I heard of, was that McKnight was entering the shooter's car through the open passenger's window. If correct, and who knows, an average reasonable person might not conclude that McKnight left his car and entered the shooter's car to offer his hand in friendship.
It can be reasonably assumed that the sheriff's office gathered evidence and presented it to the prosecutor. The prosecutor thought the evidence warranted leveling charges, and the sheriff made the arrest. Now a jury of the shooter's peers will determine his guilt or innocence.
Except for false testimony and undue pressure on elected officials for a lynching instead of normal justice processes, things are working well in Jefferson Parish in this instance.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:12 am to skinny domino
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Who was it said a DA in the state of Louisiana could get an indictment of a ham sandwich?
That is possible outside of LA, believe me.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:15 am to Gaspergou202
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One piece of hearsay evidence that I heard of, was that McKnight was entering the shooter's car through the open passenger's window. If correct, and who knows, an average reasonable person might not conclude that McKnight left his car and entered the shooter's car to offer his hand in friendship.
You made alot of great points so me let add on one for everybody here. If the report that mcknight was trying to get in gassner vehicle is correct and let's pretend gassner didn't have a gun and was subsequently assaulted and beaten, would McKnight be charged with assault and battery? The answer is yes. If you are about to be the victim of assault and battery do you have the right to use force? Again the answer is yes.
I have not seen anything that justified McKnight blocking a guy in then proceeding to try to vet into said guys vehicle. Whatever exactly those two got into conflict about still hasn't been shown to justify what McKnight did.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:20 am to STEVED00
Exactly. If they would have gone for manslaughter vs Zimmerman that dbag would be in jail now.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:22 am to mmcgrath
Yikes. Your legal acumen leaves quite a lot to be desired. What would you like him charged with?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:22 am to mmcgrath
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There was no false testimony to police that I am aware of outside of possibly Mr.
The sheriff said that they had a witness who change his story several times while talking to JPSO officers. Read the transcript and become more aware!
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They were internet posts. Something that every public person gets nearly every day.
Doesn't matter the source be it snail mail, internet, or picketers outside their homes. It was PRESSURE brought to cause an outcome outside of the lawful justice system, you know a lynching. Example: "if I had a son..." leads to arrest, prosecution, and finally an acquittal. But you appear to be ok with that. Another good reason why you should never be on a jury.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:33 am to mmcgrath
The burden on the state to prove intent would dam near be impossible, it's the right charge if they want a conviction.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:40 am to mmcgrath
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Using anonymous internet posts as an excuse to say every bad word in the book (something he has done on repeated occasions) is not acceptable.
Why not? He was trying to give people a window into the vitriol being spewed.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:46 am to mmcgrath
quote:You don't even know what happened and are just filling the pieces in your head with your imagination, you crazy a-hole.
IMO, Gasser baited McKnight into leaving his car and then shot him. Should by murder, not manslaughter.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:53 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:IMO = In My Opinion, not meant to be taken as fact, just speculation ...quote:
IMO, Gasser baited McKnight into leaving his car and then shot him. Should by murder, not manslaughter.
You don't even know what happened and are just filling the pieces in your head with your imagination, you crazy a-hole.
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you crazy a-hole.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:58 am to mmcgrath
How would you prove that beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:01 am to mmcgrath
You cannot just have an opinion on what happened when you know next to nothing about the case.
This isn't a subjective matter where there is no right or wrong answer.
What happened is what happened. What you "think" or "feel" is you just making up bullshite in your own head.
This isn't a subjective matter where there is no right or wrong answer.
What happened is what happened. What you "think" or "feel" is you just making up bullshite in your own head.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:02 am to mmcgrath
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IMO = In My Opinion, not meant to be taken as fact, just speculation ...
So you are criticizing the JPPD on their decision to go with manslaughter bc in your opinion based on little to no facts you feel Gasser baited McKnight into confronting him so he could shoot him. Got it. You would be a dynamite prosecutor.
We should achieve justice thru emotion and mob mentality instead of actual facts. We get it, anything short of immediate death penalty for Gasser would have been the wrong course of action, In Your Opinion.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:07 am to STEVED00
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Your opinion that Gasser's intent all along was to get McKnight out of the car so he could kill him probably would be laughed at in a court of law.
I don't know about that. He chased McKnight down (followed him through at least a couple of turns) and got out already armed. There could be a case made for some level of premeditation.
Add into it that after the initial shooting he stood over McKnight then delivered a couple of extra shots, I don't think 2nd Degree Murder is out of the realm of possibility at all.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:27 am to STEVED00
quote:Gasser initiated the "bad behavior" drove up next to McKnight and opened window yelling at him. All while being fully aware of his loaded gun wedged in seat. We don't have any transcript of testimony, but eye witnesses seem to describe a lot of arguing before McKnight left his vehicle and no corroboration of McKnight entering Gasser's.
So you are criticizing the JPPD on their decision to go with manslaughter bc in your opinion based on little to no facts you feel Gasser baited McKnight into confronting him so he could shoot him. Got it. You would be a dynamite prosecutor.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:34 am to mmcgrath
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Gasser initiated the "bad behavior" drove up next to McKnight and opened window yelling at him. All while being fully aware of his loaded gun wedged in seat
Since you're going that far, why did he drive up to McKnight and single him out again?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:36 am to mmcgrath
What do you think the appropriate charge is?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:38 am to mmcgrath
You just made the argument why it should be manslaughter. Heat of the moment argument between 2 people that led to an aletercation that could've been avoided which eventually ended in shots fired.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 11:40 am
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