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re: Joe McKnight Shooter Arrested (finally) - Sheriff runs his mouth
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:39 am to Bard
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:39 am to Bard
Wow Bard, everything you just spewed is directly contradicted by the evidence made public.
The sheriff explicitly stated that all 3 shots were fired inside the car. He also said that the testimony of the stand over were false and that witness changed his testimony repeatedly.
The sheriff said that the incident (apparently) was a mutual road rage problem that escalated to a killing.
We can all believe that it was a tragic waste for a young man to die in a preventable needless manner. It was, and all of us should use this as a lesson to avoid such moronic situations. But it is up to a jury and legal facts to determine the guilt or innocence of the shooter under the legal definition of Louisiana law.
Spewing false information leads to outrage and more human misery.
The sheriff explicitly stated that all 3 shots were fired inside the car. He also said that the testimony of the stand over were false and that witness changed his testimony repeatedly.
The sheriff said that the incident (apparently) was a mutual road rage problem that escalated to a killing.
We can all believe that it was a tragic waste for a young man to die in a preventable needless manner. It was, and all of us should use this as a lesson to avoid such moronic situations. But it is up to a jury and legal facts to determine the guilt or innocence of the shooter under the legal definition of Louisiana law.
Spewing false information leads to outrage and more human misery.
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:42 am to mmcgrath
The state would have to prove that his intent was to kill McKnight with the actual evidence accumulated in the investigation and that would be close to impossible.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:43 am to STEVED00
quote:Except that manslaughter requires the shooter to have been provoked in a a way that an average person would loose their cool and kill someone. Getting cut off on an exit isn't that.
You just made the argument why it should be manslaughter. Heat of the moment argument between 2 people that led to an aletercation that could've been avoided which eventually ended in shots fired.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:47 am to Aristo
quote:Shooting someone 3 times is intent to kill. He didn't plan on it, but that still qualifies as 2nd degree murder.
The state would have to prove that his intent was to kill McKnight with the actual evidence accumulated in the investigation and that would be close to impossible.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:48 am to mmcgrath
Well McKnight did get out his car to confront Gasser. I'm guessing he probably wasn't asking to exchange insurance info.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:50 am to Gaspergou202
quote:
Spewing false information leads to outrage and more human misery.
So does inferring that I meant to do that.
The last I had heard on this was right after the event so this stance by the SO is news to me. So
for the update and 
for the attitude.Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:52 am to mmcgrath
quote:
Shooting someone 3 times is intent to kill. He didn't plan on it, but that still qualifies as 2n
Right, but when the whole incident started the state cannot prove it was started with the intent to kill McKnight, it is a much easier case to prove they got in an argument and in the heat of the moment, Gasser shot and killed McKnight.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:53 am to mmcgrath
The sheriff is an ego maniacal a-hole who got all bunched up over a few mean FB comments.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:53 am to mmcgrath
quote:
Mr. Gasser told investigators that he was "irritated" by being cut off and "set out after Mr. McKnight," Sheriff Normand said.
If so, I hope they convict him.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:57 am to mmcgrath
quote:
Gasser initiated the "bad behavior" drove up next to McKnight and opened window yelling at him. All while being fully aware of his loaded gun wedged in seat.
None of that would be illegal, if true. And the sheriff said that McKnigh initiated the bad behavior by "cutting off" Gasser. You have a casual disregard for facts that don't fit your narrative. But you fully embrace fantasy that promotes your agenda!
Fact, a young man died in a tragic and stupid manner.
Fact, the prosecutor thinks the evidence warrants a trial.
Fact, the defense thinks that the shooting was legal under Louisiana law.
Fact, a jury will decide the case in a lawful manner.
Fact, neither you nor I know the complete facts of this tragedy.
My bias is that I want the justice system to determine the outcome in a legal manner. I want the guilty punished and the innocent vindicated.
What is yours?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:05 pm to Bard
quote:
So does inferring that I meant to do that.
The last I had heard on this was right after the event so this stance by the SO is news to me. So for the update and for the attitude.
Good or bad intentions do not unburn buildings, heal the injured, or resurrect the dead!
Pontificating when you know you are ignorant is asinine.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:34 pm to mmcgrath
IMO:
The Only reason Gasser was arrested...He ran off at the mouth without Counsel.
Repeat after me- "Anything you say, can and will be used against you.
It is beyond foolish to give away any information without an attorney present. If not for Gasser's statements, they have 2 parked cars, some traffic cam footage, and 3 shell casings. Gasser remains uncharged without his diarrhea of the mouth.
The Only reason Gasser was arrested...He ran off at the mouth without Counsel.
Repeat after me- "Anything you say, can and will be used against you.
It is beyond foolish to give away any information without an attorney present. If not for Gasser's statements, they have 2 parked cars, some traffic cam footage, and 3 shell casings. Gasser remains uncharged without his diarrhea of the mouth.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:56 pm to NimbleCat
quote:
Repeat after me- "Anything you say, can and will be used against you. It is beyond foolish to give away any information without an attorney present. If not for Gasser's statements, they have 2 parked cars, some traffic cam footage, and 3 shell casings. Gasser remains uncharged without his diarrhea of the mouth.
I agree brother!
"Officer I'm so glad you're here! He was going to attack me! I want an attorney!"
Repeat the last attorney sentence any and every time someone speaks to you! Doesn't matter if that person is a police officer, a paramedic, or your momma! Only talk to your attorney after that person says "Ok, now talk to me."
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:59 pm to NimbleCat
quote:
IMO:
The Only reason Gasser was arrested...He ran off at the mouth without Counsel.
Repeat after me- "Anything you say, can and will be used against you.
It is beyond foolish to give away any information without an attorney present. If not for Gasser's statements, they have 2 parked cars, some traffic cam footage, and 3 shell casings. Gasser remains uncharged without his diarrhea of the mouth
Yep. His comment of being irritated ultimately got his dumbass arrested.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:18 pm to mmcgrath
I've developed a general disdain for Normand, but he handled this 100% correctly, although I didn't see/hear the press conf so can't speak to demeanor therein, which I hear was kinda overboard.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:22 pm to Gaspergou202
I believe that being the aggressor may bar the stand your ground defense; however, with this kind of back and forth scenario it's hard to tell when or if that (being the aggressor) would apply.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:29 pm to USMCTiger03
quote:
I've developed a general disdain for Normand, but he handled this 100% correctly, although I didn't see/hear the press conf so can't speak to demeanor therein, which I hear was kinda overboard.
Kind of overboard? He literally got mad that people said mean shite to him on twitter and then read them aloud like Jimmy Kimmel's mean tweets segment done as a joke. The whole thing was unprofessional.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:01 pm to Gaspergou202
quote:
when you know you are ignorant
Impressive deductive fallacy. Get back to me when you figure out where your logic failed in that sad retort.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:33 pm to USMCTiger03
quote:
I believe that being the aggressor may bar the stand your ground defense; however, with this kind of back and forth scenario it's hard to tell when or if that (being the aggressor) would apply.
Agree. But at this time based upon the slim evidence that has come my way, I can see a defense argument that could lead to acquittal.
First this is a road rage situation that both moronically participated in.
After several miles and many minutes of back and forth screaming and stupid behavior, McKnight left his vehicle and approached the open passenger side window of the defendants car. After more yelling and screaming Mr. McKnight lunged through the window into the defendant's car. The defendant feared for his wellbeing from the much younger, stronger, more physically fit Mr. McNight who was changing the altercation from a verbal exchange to a very dangerous physical one that the defendant would surely be injured or killed by. Louisiana recognizes the defendant's right to use deadly force. He is not guilty!
I am not a lawyer and I don't play on on TV. My opinion is inherently no better from any other. And future facts can change everything I just wrote instantly. For example suppose McKnight was shot all three times in the back! That little ballistic tidbit would push me more towards the charge of murder than manslaughter!
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:33 pm to mmcgrath
Shouldn't you be in your pajama boy safe space since your queen hag, shitlary, had its clock cleaned on election day?
Why does it bother you pajama boys so much as to what the sheriff said? He's speaking the truth. You'd better be thankful that it wasn't Harry Lee because he may have gone on more of a tirade considering how the queen of pajama boys, obama, has fricked up this country's toughness. Thankfully that coffee shop mentality has come to an end!
Why does it bother you pajama boys so much as to what the sheriff said? He's speaking the truth. You'd better be thankful that it wasn't Harry Lee because he may have gone on more of a tirade considering how the queen of pajama boys, obama, has fricked up this country's toughness. Thankfully that coffee shop mentality has come to an end!
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