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re: JBE running on his record of "saving" Louisiana--Louisiana to him is government
Posted on 7/13/19 at 3:46 pm to I B Freeman
Posted on 7/13/19 at 3:46 pm to I B Freeman
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He tried to cut government although not nearly enough.
Bobby Jindal did no such thing.
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Posted on 7/13/19 at 3:58 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Bobby Jindal did no such thing.
This. Jindal did three things:
1. reductions in the annual rate of increase for government budgets
2. hiring freeze
3. privatization of prisons and charity hospital system
Saying the government only grew by 3% instead of 5% is NOT a cut!!!
For all the himming and hawing about the budget cleaver taken to higher ed under Jindal, LSU's budget never once went down. Every year, they spent more than the year before while claiming the sky was falling.
This post was edited on 7/13/19 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 7/13/19 at 3:59 pm to jimmy the leg
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JBE has to go, but him shitting on Jindal is fair game.
The problem with Jindal is not in what he did but what he failed to do in enacting meaningful reforms.
For all his faults, he didn’t tax us to death, regulate thousands of jobs out of Louisiana and attacking the largest private employer in Louisiana.
That has all been JBE.
In the past four years, nearly 70,000 people have left Louisiana. That’s so bad it might cost us a house seat in DC. Jindal never had outmigration numbers that bad.
We didn’t derserve Jindal betraying us in abandoning Louisiana and refusing to continue the good work that he was doing in his first term but JBE has been an absolute disaster as he’s the political twin of Edwin Edwards.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 4:03 pm to kingbob
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The intention is to paint the opposition in the race, particularly Rispone, as Jindal 2.0
In politics, it is better not to attack the opponent as they are, but to paint your opponent as the one you would rather attack. JBE knows attacking Jindal is good for business, so he will do whatever he can to make voters associate whichever GOP candidate makes it through to the runoff with jindal.
What happens when the GOP candidate absolutely disowns Bobby Jindal and agrees he was a traitor that abandoned Louisiana?
All they have to say is, “Hey, I thought Jindal sucked too until I saw these last few years of JBE”.
If JBE and his minions keep talking about Bobby Jindal, that’s a good sign that they have nothing positive at all to base their reelection on and is nervous as hell about October.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 4:06 pm to ttassin
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Jindals last budget was $27 billion, JBLs last budget was $30 billion!!!
Let that sink in, my roads still suck, schools suck, college is unaffordable but my taxes went up!
JBE has built a surplus of our tax dollars with absolutely nothing positive to show for it, Louisiana being bottom 5 in the wrong categories and top 5 in the wrong categories too, more outmigration and less and less real economic development.
JBE sucks.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 4:12 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:.... not when the bastard voted for most of Jindals budgets it ain't
JBE has to go, but him shitting on Jindal is fair game.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 4:26 pm to I B Freeman
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If you are talking about the deficit then why not CUT spending, eliminate agencies and film maker welfare ect. instead of raising taxes???
Okay. I'm good with that (always have been). These sre things that Jindal should have done. However, pretending there wasn't a deficit due to Jindal's economic policy decisions is disingenuous.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 4:29 pm to Sentrius
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We didn’t derserve Jindal betraying us in abandoning Louisiana and refusing to continue the good work that he was doing in his first term but JBE has been an absolute disaster
This
Posted on 7/13/19 at 4:40 pm to Thunder
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JBE has to go, but him shitting on Jindal is fair game.
.... not when the bastard voted for most of Jindals budgets it ain't
Fair point. So I will rephrase. Him shitting on Jindal is expedient politically (in spite of his voting record). Why, because ultimately, the policy decisions were Jindal's 100%.
Is he disingenuous, of course. Was he complicit, absolutely. Is he wrong about Jindal...nope. He is hoping that voters have a short memory. Unfortunately, in Louisiana, voters being given the old "Jedi mind trick" is a tried and true strategy.
Like I said...JBE has got to go.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 5:11 pm to jimmy the leg
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Defending Jindal is a non-starter imho...period (2 billion dollars of debt for Louisiana voters).
False, the state doesn’t borrow money to run the govt. Jindal by law balanced the budget every year. You can argue he used one time money (just as Edwards did) but he never left the state in debt.
But I’m not defending Jindal; he abandoned his post and fostered this boondoggle we are stuck with (Film Tax Credits). He could have pushed through tax reforms and reformed the nursing home industry and didn’t do it. The only thing he did right was not raise taxes.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 5:17 pm to Sentrius
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JBE has built a surplus of our tax dollars with absolutely nothing positive to show for it,
Wrong, he raised taxes 200 million dollars too much. Now some will go to a rainy day fund, etc. but a large amount will be spent at his discretion to reward political allies.
Remember too he has a 200 million dollar surplus now, but it would have been much larger if Republicans in the Legislature wouldn’t have blocked his initial tax package. They saved La. taxpayers over 400 million dollars.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 5:19 pm to doubleb
I think Abraham and Rispone are waiting until the qualifying dates is past before dropping big money on the race.
I think there is still an outside chance Scalise gets in the race. Trump calling him out on it may have put started some negotiations.
I think there is still an outside chance Scalise gets in the race. Trump calling him out on it may have put started some negotiations.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 5:38 pm to I B Freeman
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It is Trump that is a "progressive" on tariffs
Well that didn't take long
Posted on 7/13/19 at 5:41 pm to I B Freeman
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Amazing how much support a guy that said these things has on this board
It's obvious to most adults why he's said those things over the years.
But if you need some help understanding, Trump specifically addressed this multiple times during the election
Posted on 7/13/19 at 7:35 pm to I B Freeman
I complained that Louisiana was lagging behind this great economy because of JBE. A liberal friend of mine said that he saved state government. I said you must be a big fan of state government bureaucrats while I am just a fan of the non state workers of Louisiana. The argument ended.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:28 pm to ELVIS U
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E. A liberal friend of mine said that he saved state government
No, he saved Film Tax Credits, the status quo for the nursing home industry, pork for non govt. entities and Medicaid fraud.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:31 pm to ELVIS U
You were exactly right.
It is the taxpayers vs. the government class.
It is the taxpayers vs. the government class.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 11:12 am to kingbob
Getting rid of employees is not reducing the size of government. Eliminating agencies, combing agencies with redundant missions, reallocating assets within existing agencies to streamline their effectiveness, closing/consolidating universities and colleges (he totally screwed the pooch with SUNO), eliminating boards and commissions, and not taking care of your political allies by ensuring they have six figure retirement packages is reducing the size of government. Mowgli did little, if any of these things.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 11:48 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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. Mowgli did little,
He did some streamlining, privatization and the like, but yes he could have done more and SUNO is a good example.
But then if you are going to be consistent, what has Edwards done?
Nothing sir, nothing.
Jindal had his faults and they surfaced way more in his second term, but the man did make some cuts, he balanced the budget by hook or crook and he never raised taxes.
If raising state taxes 15% makes you a great governor then Edwards is a great governor because besides the Medicaid fiasco which is ripe with corruption he’s done nothing else.
Our economy was in recession while the nation prospered, 75,000 folks left the state and were not replaced.
It’s past time to blame Jindal. Edwards is our governor and he’s been a major player at the legislature before that.
Edwards is a poster boy for why we suck.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 12:02 pm to Sentrius
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JBE has built a surplus of our tax dollars with absolutely nothing positive to show for it
300 million worth
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