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re: JBE and Leges plotting to raise gasoline tax--watch this video

Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:21 pm to
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Alario


closet democrat liberal
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:22 pm to
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I don't mind paying more in a fuel tax provided the new monies will be 100% dedicated to road and bridge projects. And there's an attempt to allocate more than the 11% currently.


problem is, if the current gas tax was used properly, no new taxes would be needed. LA would be building / fixing roads left and right.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:37 pm to
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problem is, if the current gas tax was used properly, no new taxes would be needed. LA would be building / fixing roads left and right.


I agree. I'm accepting the reality that is next to impossible in our current state fiscal climate...
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 9:38 pm
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:47 pm to
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Only 11% of Current Gas Taxes in La. Go Toward Road and Bridges

where does the rest of it go?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:47 pm to
So you want more taxes even though you know the people collecting and spending the taxes will not do what is promised???

That kind of thinking is why we're screwed.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:50 pm to
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Quick, tell us why this is horrible


Because 89% of the existing tax is being siphoned off to pay for everything but what it was intended for: roads and bridges. The same is true at the federal government. It's nothing but a big bait and switch. They dangle what we need in front of us, tell us to jump up and grab it, and then pull it away. No matter how many tax increases we vote for in Baton Rouge, nothing will come of it. ALL of the money will go down the rabbit hole of consulting contracts, entitlements, and government employee benefits. No roads, bridges, schools, etc will be built, and next year they will be asking for more to plug an even bigger budget hole.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:50 pm to
That is not at all what I said.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:51 pm to
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where does the rest of it go?


State police, to pay for their average of 40hrs of "OT" per week, lavish retirement benefits calculated to give them their maximum salary for life (at that 80hr/wk rate), and road trips to Vegas.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36121 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:53 pm to
I read what you said, and I think anyone who believes that you can trust the govt. with more money if they promise to spend it better is part of the problem.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:54 pm to
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I don't mind paying more in a fuel tax provided the new monies will be 100% dedicated to road and bridge projects.


Too bad too many people in the legislature doesn't agree with you.

Dude, you know the gas tax is a scam right? It's only designed to grow some more bloated government.

The only time its acceptable to vote for this is when you have a fiscally conservative governor and you know for a fact there is enough fiscal conservatives in the state house that this tax won't be abused.

We're not there yet.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40175 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:54 pm to
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Quick, tell us why this is horrible




1. Why can't they just use >11% of the current gas tax revenue on roads?

quote:

Adding to the regulatory burden, President Obama in 2014 released draft guidance that all federal departments and agencies consider the effects of greenhouse gas emissions and “climate change” in their reviews, further extending the time required to complete the requisite statements.

In the infrastructure investment sector, the U.S. lags behind Singapore, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Canada, Malaysia, Norway and Sweden. Much of the problem lies with the endlessly redundant federal environmental regulations imposed on almost every infrastructure project. Even the liberal Progressive Policy Institute stated in May that “an accumulation of laws and regulations” largely designed to protect the environment is thwarting an array of necessary transportation projects — and resulting in environment harm.

The non-partisan institute Common Good issued a 2015 report noting that “a six-year delay in starting construction on public projects costs the nation over $3.7 trillion, including the costs of prolonged inefficiencies and unnecessary pollution,” more than double the cost of the actual projects. Many projects require as many as 10 years of environmental review just to be approved, let alone begun and completed.
LINK

2. The cost analysis that JBE and the legislature used to come up with the $12.1billion backlog were done last year when those regulations were still in effect. Pres Trump has removed those regulations or is in the process of removing those regulations. So hopefully our $12.1billion backlog will be less. JBE and co need to wait until atleast the fall and see what Pres Trump does. Then he can call a special session to fund the backlog and hopefully the tax raise will be less.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:36 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36121 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:54 pm to
Don't leave out buildings full of engineers and bureaucrats.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67155 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:57 pm to
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Kenny Matassa in the AP is another good example too and look at him up shite creek now.


In Kenny's defense, he's always been a dem, courted the dem votes in the parish, and didn't get hardly any support from parish GOP voters, which mostly broke for Cointmont.

Kenny is a machine politician, much like Alario.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:59 pm to
Look, I don't trust them for shite. But we have shite for roads. I'm tired of our state lacking creativity in infrastructure projects. I think it's absurd that only 11% is spent on its intended program.

All this being said, I've been here long enough to know that the fools downtown won't make tough decisions. So if the additional fuel tax goes entirely to roads and there's some action to bringing that 11% up to say, 50% in the next 5 years; I could live with that vs. the current alternative of nothing.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36121 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:59 pm to
I hope he gets kicked out sooner than later.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:59 pm to
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In Kenny's defense, he's always been a dem, courted the dem votes in the parish, and didn't get hardly any support from parish GOP voters, which mostly broke for Cointmont.

Kenny is a machine politician, much like Alario.


Please tell that the same people who peddled Matassa don't have any talent left the and the road is clear for Clint Cointment to win a special election.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:01 pm to
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State police, to pay for their average of 40hrs of "OT" per week, lavish retirement benefits calculated to give them their maximum salary for life (at that 80hr/wk rate), and road trips to Vegas.

i just looked up our receipts from motor vehicles tax for the month, and it was ~30 million, which roughly implies over 300 mil for the year. you're saying all that costs us 300mil/year, and all comes from the transportation trust fund?

that 11% stat reeks of bullshite
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67155 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:09 pm to
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Please tell that the same people who peddled Matassa don't have any talent left the and the road is clear for Clint Cointment to win a special election.


Matassa wasn't supposed to win that election. The idea was that Chris Loar was the heir apparent, a young, fresh-faced "reform" candidate who would be the puppet of the developers, while making the Prarieville peeps feel represented in parish politics (D-ville mafia, literally the Marcello's Crime Family, has always run the parish)

Cointmont jumps in representing the rural folk who are tired of the developers running rough-shod over everyone while getting tax breaks and variences to avoid paying for infrastructure.

Polls show Cointmont would make it to a runoff against Loar, so they convinced Matassa to run. They figured Matassa was old enough that he would know every body and convince enough of the old people on the East bank to vote for him to keep Cointmont out of the runoff.

Turned out, Kenny's D-ville mafia turned out in droves, and he got enough dems to vote for him to make the runoff, but he and Cointmont stole so many votes from Loar that he ended up in third place, with a runoff between Kenny and Cointmont. Kenny hit every level on the political machine and got just enough of the dead vote to win by less than 200 votes.

Unless Johnny Berthelot wants to drop out of the state legislature, Cointmont should have this in the bag. Loar would be his only real competition.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67155 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:11 pm to
50% goes to pay for salaries, benefits, and maintenance at DOTD headquarters.
11% goes to building and maintaining roads and bridges
The rest goes to state police, for the most part.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68381 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:13 pm to
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But he is Republican why aren't you happy?


Because, unlike you monolithic hacks, the right can disagree with each other.
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