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re: Its official U of Alabama is racist
Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:38 pm to Scruffy
Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:38 pm to Scruffy
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Agreed. That is one of the reasons I disagree with making discrimination illegal. Let them. Then people can publicly shame them on any forum they wish.
If the shame doesn't bother them, then so be it. People will react to that accordingly.
Well said. Personally, I just think Tuba is butthurt for getting passed over at sorority rush.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:51 pm to NYNolaguy1
So here's a counterpoint that I am certain Tuba will ignore.
Let's assume the Student Senate went the other way and forced the sororities to integrate. Who would choose which girls would have to get selected? Would there be some University administrator giving approval to every member? What kind of message would that send to the girl that was selected only bc she's black?
Going a step further, would they force a quota that applies to ALL Greek organizations, white and black? Would the Greek organizations accept that? I doubt it. They would just move their organizations off campus.
To me this is the classic solution to every liberal's problem with the world- we need more government control!
Let's assume the Student Senate went the other way and forced the sororities to integrate. Who would choose which girls would have to get selected? Would there be some University administrator giving approval to every member? What kind of message would that send to the girl that was selected only bc she's black?
Going a step further, would they force a quota that applies to ALL Greek organizations, white and black? Would the Greek organizations accept that? I doubt it. They would just move their organizations off campus.
To me this is the classic solution to every liberal's problem with the world- we need more government control!
Posted on 3/29/14 at 12:58 pm to SpidermanTUba
Only thing official is you arw a stupid POS liberal.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:15 pm to gthog61
I hope this hurts Alabama in football recruiting. I hope young black people stop going to Alabama because of this. I would love to see Nick explain this to a black football recruit's family.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:18 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Let's assume the Student Senate went the other way and forced the sororities to integrate.
A better solution would be to simply identify all fraternity/sorority members by race or ethnicity, then randomly assign each member to a random frat/soro to achieve proper racial/ethnic diversity. Sound whacky? Look up busing.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:18 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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I hope this hurts Alabama in football recruiting. I hope young black people stop going to Alabama because of this. I would love to see Nick explain this to a black football recruit's family.
This happens at every SEC school- even LSU. Not only that but football players don't join IFC frats. It's not an issue in football.
Now the players unionizing, that's a whole different issue...
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:23 pm to NYNolaguy1
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This happens at every SEC school- even LSU. Not only that but football players don't join IFC frats. It's not an issue in football.
Now the players unionizing, that's a whole different issue...
This is an issue in football. Why should a black guy bust his arse on the football field for a bunch of white racist sorority girls who have the gall to cheer him on the field.
This will be used in negative recruiting against Alabama.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:33 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Why should a black guy bust his arse on the football field for a bunch of white racist sorority girls who have the gall to cheer him on the field.
The main problem the black football players have with "white racist sorority girls" is how to beat them off with a stick. You raceologists are so out of touch with reality.
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This will be used in negative recruiting against Alabama.
So be it. If a young man is so racially hung up, he probably shouldn't play at any Southern school because twits like you won't let him be.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:35 pm to son of arlo
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Are there all black fraternities/sororities that do the same thing?
Black fraternities and sororities do NOT restrict membership to black students.
This is a MYTH.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:36 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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This is an issue in football. Why should a black guy bust his arse on the football field for a bunch of white racist sorority girls who have the gall to cheer him on the field.
black football players willingly joint their own racist frats that don't allow white people and brand them like animals
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:36 pm to son of arlo
quote:If he is that sensitive he is too big of a pussy to play football to begin with.
If a young man is so racially hung up, he probably shouldn't play at any Southern school because twits like you won't let him be.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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no this move is totally racist, but i will almost guaran-fricking-tee you the old crew will say "they have their own sorrority
Yep. And my issue with that is this:
Let's say you have a black girl who grew up in a middle class white neighborhood, went to school with whites, attended church with whites, had only white friends. Due to no fault of her own, she has effectively zero exposure to black culture.
She then attends the University of Alabama and hopes to join a white sorority, but because of the alumnae, she is now forced to either 1) join a black sorority with people she assumes to have little in common with, or 2) join no sorority at all.
It's incredibly irresponsible to assume that people are happier among others of their own race.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:51 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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I would love to see Nick explain this to a black football recruit's family.
The only thing Nick needs to explain to the families of black recruits is the amount of $$$ their son will be making in the league after giving him 3-5 years of football at Bama.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:56 pm to LordSaintly
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Let's say you have a black girl who grew up in a middle class white neighborhood, went to school with whites, attended church with whites, had only white friends. Due to no fault of her own, she has effectively zero exposure to black culture.
She then attends the University of Alabama and hopes to join a white sorority, but because of the alumnae, she is now forced to either 1) join a black sorority with people she assumes to have little in common with, or 2) join no sorority at all.
It's incredibly irresponsible to assume that people are happier among others of their own race.
Hitting kinda close to home, ain't it?
Tell me O Wise One, (and yes you do have a lot of credibility with me) how would you handle it if a lilly white frat turned you down?
Posted on 3/29/14 at 1:56 pm to LordSaintly
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It's incredibly irresponsible to assume that people are happier among others of their own race.
So, again, assume that the black girl is accepted only because she is black. When she finds out, do you think she will stay? Will the organizations there now accept govt intrusion? What if they move off campus and the school then has zero say, and zero options for the stated black girl. Is that a better situation for anyone?
Personally, I think it ends up like
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she is now forced to either 1) join a black sorority with people she assumes to have little in common with, or 2) join no sorority at all.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 3/29/14 at 2:03 pm to son of arlo
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Hitting kinda close to home, ain't it?
Is it that obvious?
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how would you handle it if a lilly white frat turned you down?
I never actually applied to join one, but I would personally just move on. If the chapter members didn't want me, then I wouldn't want to join such a group. If alums didn't want me, then I would be pissed, but I'd still move on.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 2:03 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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This is an issue in football. Why should a black guy bust his arse on the football field for a bunch of white racist sorority girls who have the gall to cheer him on the field.
This will be used in negative recruiting against Alabama.
If this were true the black football player should have stayed away from the SEC a long time ago. Didn't happen, and I doubt anything is changing now. Again, it's not an issue in football.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 2:07 pm to LordSaintly
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I never actually applied to join one, but I would personally just move on. If the chapter members didn't want me, then I wouldn't want to join such a group. If alums didn't want me, then I would be pissed, but I'd still move on.
/thread
Posted on 3/29/14 at 2:09 pm to NYNolaguy1
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So, again, assume that the black girl is accepted only because she is black. When she finds out, do you think she will stay?
This is hard to say. Some people would be angry, but others would just be happy to be in. IT all depends on the person.
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Will the organizations there now accept govt intrusion? What if they move off campus and the school then has zero say, and zero options for the stated black girl. Is that a better situation for anyone?
No that would not be good.
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