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re: Its disturbing that leftists arent disturbed by this

Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:20 am to
Posted by PDXDawg
Member since Aug 2013
753 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:20 am to
if they had good reason, i.e. Probable cause, to monitor his communications then I'm fine with it. If purely political then of course it's not okay. I'm sure most on this board have already had up their minds, but rational people take a "wait for the facts" approach. Actual facts, not alternative facts, that his admin seems to gravitate towards.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45097 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:20 am to
quote:

or Trump supporters that can't comprehend why people outside their Trump bubble don't automatically fall in line and accept when Trump makes an unsubstantiated assertion?



there are certainly people like this but at the same time the left has been attacking the man from day 1. This man was painted as a racists by the leftest loons with no evidence at all.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79626 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:21 am to
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I thought that leftists were anti police state and anti survaillence and anti intrusion of privacy and anti PATRIOT act


They are.

Until they aren't.
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 12:07 pm to
Oh, they are disturbed. They are melting across all forums, social media, and Sunday talk shows as we speak.

They will have their official talking points in a few hours and we will see 20 threads started here stating the exact same thing and CNN/WaPo/NYT/etc will have nearly identical headlines bashing Trump and calling for his impeachment.

Once you accept that they are losers and mentally ill this is all rather entertaining.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 12:08 pm to
Trump has given them no reason to believe it's true yet.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 12:10 pm to
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They will have their official talking points in a few hours


They better be careful with those talking points. This story clearly has legs and is evolving. There will be stories about the FISA warrants, the Trump Tower wire taps, and questions about who ordered them.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 1:18 pm to
"Them" lol you are as leftist as anyone in this board
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 1:28 pm to
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"Them" lol you are as leftist as anyone in this board


Dumb
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50248 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 1:39 pm to
Why would they be?

Many cheered the actions of the IRS.

Until you recognize that you are in a war with your fellow citizens you will constantly be "surprised". These people want you marginalized and shut down. Any means to make this happen will gain their support.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 1:40 pm to
Who ordered surveillance of Trump? Please link us up
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67027 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 1:43 pm to
The leftists I know think either:
A. Trump is lying about these wiretaps to deflect from the charges against him and Sessions, or
B. The taps were justified because Trump is a Russian agent.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
6689 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 1:44 pm to
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They're all brainwashed cult members. Looking thru that lens, they're behavior is predictable.


"Brainwashed"? I've never called anyone 'Lord Emporer" like the brainwashed trumpkins do on here. Guy tweets something he reads on Breitbart and his cult thinks it's fact and are ready to rally the troops. Now that's being brainwashed.
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2463 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:25 pm to
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The leftists I know think either:
A. Trump is lying about these wiretaps to deflect from the charges against him and Sessions, or
B. The taps were justified because Trump is a Russian agent.


C. Waiting for some evidence

The reason A is believed by so many is because Trump does have a History of making shite up on twitter and backing it with no evidence. Trump has made over at least 80 tweets about Obama place of birth and proclaim to have some super secret evidence about Obama's birth that he would eventually release to the public. He also claims to send a team of investigators to Hawaii to find out the truth about Obama's birth. He never sent a team to investigate Obama and he hasn't released anything about the issue.



This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84835 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:28 pm to
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Id say they have shown theirselves to be accurate a hell of a lot, especially recently.


Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:30 pm to
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"Brainwashed"? I've never called anyone 'Lord Emporer" like the brainwashed trumpkins do on here


That is a joke you humorless twit
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:31 pm to
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the point was the Trump has shown he doesn't need 100% facts before he makes statements/claims

Compared to whom?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:33 pm to
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This board melted over the unfounded Russian claims then latch onto a tweet. Y'all need some standards.



Everything is back or white to you isn't it?
To help guide me towards developing "standards"..what are are your "standards"...so I get an idea of what you mean?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:34 pm to
Burden of proof lies with the accuser.

When he provides proof then I'll believe. I believe that's a perfectly reasonable position to take.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84835 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:36 pm to
quote:


That is a joke


No it's not
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:43 pm to
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Ordering surveillance of political opponents

I'll take "making huge assumptions" for 200, Alex.

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