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Is There Anyone Here Who Thinks Judge Gorsuch WON'T be Confirmed?
Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:06 am
Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:06 am
Just curious. If so, here's your chance to be bold and predict it now.
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:22 am to KCT
I dont.
But I would not hesitate to use the nuclear option to get him confirmed. Gorsuch may be confirmed without it but if Trump gets to replace another one, especially if it is Ginsburg, they will have to get rid of the filibuster. There is no way the democrats would allow a conservative to replace her.
I personally hope that when Ginsburg retires or dies Trump nominates Ted Cruz for her spot. The senate conservatives would love to get Cruz out of the senate and he would be a great justice who would not think of the constitution as something that should change with the times.
But I would not hesitate to use the nuclear option to get him confirmed. Gorsuch may be confirmed without it but if Trump gets to replace another one, especially if it is Ginsburg, they will have to get rid of the filibuster. There is no way the democrats would allow a conservative to replace her.
I personally hope that when Ginsburg retires or dies Trump nominates Ted Cruz for her spot. The senate conservatives would love to get Cruz out of the senate and he would be a great justice who would not think of the constitution as something that should change with the times.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:25 am to KCT
He will be confirmed.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:27 am to KCT
He will be confirmed because forcing the nuclear option isn't an option for the Democrats.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:29 am to KCT
One way or the other he will be a justice.
50/50 Dimocrats so butt hurt they filibuster and get Reid ruled, or political common sense gives enough dim votes to reach exactly 60 on cloture and 52-48 approval.
I want Reid so more conservative judges can slide smoothly through.
And, I just like to do the MAGA dance of joy!
50/50 Dimocrats so butt hurt they filibuster and get Reid ruled, or political common sense gives enough dim votes to reach exactly 60 on cloture and 52-48 approval.
I want Reid so more conservative judges can slide smoothly through.
And, I just like to do the MAGA dance of joy!
Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:33 am to GFaceKillah
quote:
He will be confirmed because forcing the nuclear option isn't an option for the Democrats.
1st) the so called nuclear option is ALL the constitution ever required.
2nd) if the democrats force it then everything in the Senate will change to simple majority except for the constitutional requirement of 2/3 Senate for a constitutional amendment
3rd) The democrats will go nuclear for everything anyway once they get the majority again. The cat is already out of the bag
4th) The Republican's would be fools not to use it because of 3.
5th) The Republicans have already shown they are willing to go the path of simple majority in confirming Trumps cabinet members.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:34 am to GFaceKillah
Democrats are retarded but still able to see there is no sense in making McConnell go nuclear over Gorsuch.
They will do it for Kennedy or RBG. "Repubs destroying the Senate so they can pack the court with extremists!"
By that time they will have a few Gorsuch decisions on record so they can say, "We allowed Gorsuch and look what happened!"
They will do it for Kennedy or RBG. "Repubs destroying the Senate so they can pack the court with extremists!"
By that time they will have a few Gorsuch decisions on record so they can say, "We allowed Gorsuch and look what happened!"
Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:36 am to Loserman
I don't neccesarily like the simple majority being enogh to confirm a Justice, BUT given the fact that we know that those on left are going to sue every single time Trump even looks at them askance, we MUST make sure we have a conservative majority on the Court.
Do what you must to get him confirmed.
Do what you must to get him confirmed.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:50 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
I don't neccesarily like the simple majority being enogh to confirm a Justice, BUT given the fact that we know that those on left are going to sue every single time Trump even looks at them askance, we MUST make sure we have a conservative majority on the Court. Do what you must to get him confirmed.
It is all the founders of our constitution ever required.
I would also say the day the "filibuster is finally dead will help usher in the day of more political parties and cause coalitions to have to be built to form a working government.
Don't forget this point either. The constitution does not define how many supreme court justices we can have.
Any president and congress could stack the court at any time they wished to do so.
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 11:53 am
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:03 pm to Loserman
quote:
if the democrats force it then everything in the Senate will change to simple majority except for the constitutional requirement of 2/3 Senate for a constitutional amendment
Per the Constitution 2/3rds vote also needed to approve treaties or to impeach.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:06 pm to Loserman
quote:
Any president and congress could stack the court at any time they wished to do so.
FDR tried to but was rebuffed.
However, after that point, the SCOTUS seemingly started to find "Constitutional grounds" for his often un-Constitutional acts.
Actually I think an expansion would be good. One Justice for each Circuit Court of Appeal plus one Chief Justice.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:40 pm to KCT
quote:Is there anyone here who wants to bet that Roe v. Wade will be overturn within two years?
Just curious. If so, here's your chance to be bold and predict it now.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:41 pm to ballscaster
I doubt it will be overturn. It may be overturned but I doubt it.
Just get public money out of the tiny human killing business and kill away with your own money or the money from supporters like you.
Seems like a fair resolution.
Just get public money out of the tiny human killing business and kill away with your own money or the money from supporters like you.
Seems like a fair resolution.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:44 pm to ballscaster
Yes. You have done better in the past.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:46 pm to roadGator
quote:
I doubt it will be overturn. It may be overturned but I doubt it.
Just get public money out of the tiny human killing business and kill away with your own money or the money from supporters like you.
Seems like a fair resolution.
LOL that would be a good compromise, but we can't have compromise in this country today. It's virtually impossible. And what's more, no one in Congress even wants to
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:46 pm to ballscaster
1/1000
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:48 pm to KCT
Yeah, Chuck Schumer.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:54 pm to alphaandomega
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I personally hope that when Ginsburg retires or dies Trump
Irrelevant. I think she can make it another three years.
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