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Invented Atrocities on 10/7
Posted on 1/25/24 at 4:21 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 4:21 am
Max Bluenthal linked to this clip from Israeli television, the anchor discusses the issues with three guests.
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It's also clear that many of the dead on October 7th, were killed by friendly fire.
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Here, a Channel 13 panel including Mickey Rosenfel .... acknowledges that lurid stories of babies hung on clotheslines, a fetus cut from a pregnant woman, a baby baked in an oven, and more were invented “to increase the magnitude of hatred for Hamas.” As Rosenfeld put it, “The war is not only military, not only political, it’s mainly media.”
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Channel 13 manages to elicit a statement of contrition from the IDF spokesman, who apologizes for “describ[ing] a reality that didn’t happen.”
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It's also clear that many of the dead on October 7th, were killed by friendly fire.
quote:From Ynet News on 12/12
Casualties fell as a result of friendly fire on October 7, but the IDF believes that beyond the operational investigations of the events, it would not be morally sound to investigate these incidents due to the immense and complex quantity of them that took place in the kibbutzim and southern Israeli communities due to the challenging situations the soldiers were in at the time.
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 4:32 am to Lima Whiskey
Please explain how this makes any difference?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 4:45 am to Lima Whiskey
Hatred for Jews and God has never been higher than it is today.
Something evil is brewing.
Something evil is brewing.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 4:55 am to Lima Whiskey
Channel 13 must be owned by an American liberal.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 5:10 am to Lima Whiskey
So we should just be mildly annoyed at what Hamas did on 10/7? It wasn’t “bad enough” to justify rendering Hamas, and the population that supports them, completely impotent to engage in further hostilities?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 5:10 am to Guntoter1
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Please explain how this makes any difference?
Don't bother. LW was desperate in the OT thread trying to convince people that the IDF is evil and Palestinians/Hamas aren't really doing anything bad because someone once told him that they were threatened by the IDF.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 5:18 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 5:27 am to Lima Whiskey
quote:Were families wiped out? Children, infants murdered? Were women raped, murdered? Were women and children taken as hostages?
were invented “to increase the magnitude of hatred for Hamas.”
To seize on one traumatized soldier's exaggerated claim about babies on a clothesline, and use it in an effort to discredit recounted facts of Oct7 Hamas atrocities is sickening.
quote:bullshite.
It's also clear that many of the dead on October 7th, were killed by friendly fire.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:05 am to NC_Tigah
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To seize on one traumatized soldier's exaggerated claim about babies on a clothesline, and use it in an effort to discredit recounted facts of Oct7 Hamas atrocities is sickening.
The clip depicts three different people.
The problem is that this appears to be a fairly common phenomenon in the aftermath of the attack, or at least, the false claims that were made were quickly repeated by the media in conjunction with the government.
As Mickey Rosenfel, who was a police spokesman, says in the clip
"The war is not only military, not only political, it’s mainly media"
This is a redux of the rape of Belgium, or the Iraqi incubator murders.
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bullshite.
As of November 20% of Israel deaths in Gaza were the result of friendly fire.
On 10/7 the Israelis panicked, and so you have the stories from Apache pilots saying they were ordered to attack anything that moved, and accordingly fired on cars without knowing who was in them, or the reports of tanks firing rounds into buildings without identifying who was inside. It was a clusterfrick. The attack helicopters probably explain the torched cars at the festival.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 6:10 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:10 am to Lima Whiskey
If you have Telegram, look up the chat 'South First Responders' if you want to see unedited proof of some of the stuff. I don't want to link it because I don't know if the rules on here allow linking to such gruesome stuff. It's sick. Most is from Hamas' own body cameras that they used along with security footage.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:16 am to Lima Whiskey
frick you and your bullshite terrorist mitigation, you POS.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:19 am to Lima Whiskey
Had Hamas not committed an act of war on Israeli citizens that day, how many lives would have been lost?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:23 am to Lima Whiskey
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Invented Atrocities on 10/7
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:26 am to Havoc
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frick you and your bullshite terrorist mitigation, you POS.
America isn’t Israel. We shouldn’t permit them to drag us into their wars.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:29 am to Lima Whiskey
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On 10/7 the Israelis panicked, and so you have the stories from Apache pilots saying they were ordered to attack anything that moved, and accordingly fired on cars without knowing who was in them, or the reports of tanks firing rounds into buildings without identifying who was inside. It was a clusterfrick. The attack helicopters probably explain the torched cars at the festival.
The Apache video has been shown to be not depicting what conspiracy theorists originally claimed.
The 20% FF is of soldiers in Gaza (20% of 100 soldier deaths). Nothing to do with October 7. Statistically speaking I'm sure that at least one, of the more than 1,000+ deaths on October 7, was due to friendly fire, but not in the quantity that you’re trying to claim.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:29 am to Lima Whiskey
Wait, Jews were lying, to further their cause? No way
And yes, After what happened, they should level ALL of gaza.
And yes, After what happened, they should level ALL of gaza.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:29 am to chris44gwlsu
Copy, I’ll take a look at it.
The problem is that the fake and exaggerated claims muddy the water. And why do you even need to push fake claims?
The problem is that the fake and exaggerated claims muddy the water. And why do you even need to push fake claims?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:29 am to Lima Whiskey
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Lima Whiskey
Hamas apologist are just as evil as Hamas
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:31 am to Lima Whiskey
Had Hamas not committed an act of war on Israel on 10/7, how many of your sacred Palestinians would still be above ground and breathing?
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