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re: Intelligence commitee chair ready to go in dry.....

Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by montanagator
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:15 pm to
"He called the Russian Ambassador"


--simple answer
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:15 pm to
Did you just chalk up Flynn's lying to the Vice President to "shite happens"?

I don't really like this new partisan Sentrius, but I'll accept that ridiculous answer as a tacit admission of defeat.

Continue defending Flynn to other folks; I'll leave you alone
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 11:15 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:17 pm to
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But I do take pleasure in the lolz of you now caring about the machination of a leak rather than the substance of the leak itself


What was it? I mean, if it's damaging it seems like we would know. In this bat shite crazy time, when the color of underwear is political you think someone would spring it.

Flynn lied, Trump overreacted.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80399 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:19 pm to
I hope the Congressman crowing about the real story being the taping of the call of a US citizen calls for the release of the transcript.

Let's get it all out in the open.

However, Trump's best move is for this to blow over and to get to the work of actually governing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:21 pm to
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However, Trump's best move is for this to blow over and to get to the work of actually governing.


He's already screwed that up.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:21 pm to
I'm surprised a conservative is backing it but Strannix has a point- an independent prosecutor should be appointed to look into all issue relating to Russia and the election.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:22 pm to
I can agree that it's been a rough month for him.

The ship certainly seems rudderless. It's almost if campaign platitudes are totally different than the nuts and bolts of day-to-day governing.

Remember when Obama said he'd shut down Gitmo? good times
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 11:23 pm
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:22 pm to
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So tell me how that swamp gets drained?


Get rid of the McCains and Pelosis.

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Transparency sacrificed for government efficiency?


When have we ever seen either of these?

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but how do you force a reporter to reveal a source?


Many have been forced to do this.

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what does that do to public transparency and governing with the consent of the governed?


Provide a link for the last time the governed had a say so in a damn thing.


Like I said, ponder it.

Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:23 pm to
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That's what I am saying.

There is a coup afoot by the unelected intelligence community.
They are an extreme minority trying to subvert the will of the people.


Well yeah James Comey and a minority of voters helped subvert the will of the people, its refreshing to see conservatives acknowledge this
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:24 pm to
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I'm surprised a conservative is backing it


Why? Most people think the Russian crap is mostly fabricated. Where were y'all when hillaries shady Russian stuff came up?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:25 pm to
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They serve at the pleasure of the president but they take an oath to defend America from enemies both foreign and domestic.

Where those two ideals intersect is obviously open to message board argument


The domestic threat stipulation only applies when the president or any other member of the executive branch is clearly a traitor, knowingly or unknowingly putting american lives at risk or actually has them killed, or steals from the american people.

Flynn may be shady as shite but unless evidence comes out that he was clearly a domestic threat, this was a political assassination.

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But I do take pleasure in the lolz of you now caring about the machination of a leak rather than the substance of the leak itself



Clinton clearly committed crimes according to the statues of the law and Comey even implied as such in the July briefing and the leak was not from american actors and that's fair game.

Clinton played stupid games with her emails and got a stupid prize.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80399 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:28 pm to
It's not anything until and unless Flynn lies about it.

And lol at you trying to parse the two scenarios by the nationalities of the leaker. Did Flynn not play stupid games? Has he not won a stupid prize?

I miss old Sentrius.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:34 pm to
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Did you just chalk up Flynn's lying to the Vice President to "shite happens"?



I mean shite they are human.

World history changing events have happened because of simple human emotions and bizarre happenstances.

Hitler killed 6 million jews because he had a shitty time in prison after WW1 and didn't like it.

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I don't really like this new partisan Sentrius


Cool.

Because it doesn't exist.

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Continue defending Flynn to other folks


I'm not defending Flynn the character. He's shady as shite and was only feeding liberal conspiracy theories but he should've left of his own will and the administration's as well.

I just really detest people cheering police state tactics from anonymous deep state bureaucrats fighting elected officials just because they felt one advisor in the White House was a liability.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80399 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:38 pm to
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just really detest people cheering police state tactics from anonymous deep state bureaucrats fighting elected officials just because they felt one advisor in the White House was a liability.


I know old sentrius was a libertarian so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one, but can I assume you're thisnindignant anytime an article quotes "a senior administration official"? I mean this is literally how D.C. has operated for almost 60 years.
Posted by Boudin
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
10133 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:40 pm to
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When this all washes out we will find that the CIA, the FBI, the Clinton Foundation and many politicians both democrat and republican were actually the ones working with the Russians. The attempt to connect Trump to Russia was a diversion to try and take the focus off of just how criminal the past administration has been


This! It's 100% to confuse the public into not knowing what to believe.

Although I do have an issue with "working with the Russians".. it is more like "ties to Russia", because at no point did their actions align with Russian interests (e.g., CIA involvement in destabilizing Ukraine, increasing missile installations along Russian border, Syria and the pipelines)
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:47 pm to
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I know old sentrius was a libertarian


More like small government conservative who's had a reckoning with some of my previously held beliefs, particularly on immigration and a sheer hatred for islam and we may need to take some extreme measures to prevent it breaching western civilization to a catastrophic level.

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so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one


Thanks.

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but can I assume you're thisnindignant anytime an article quotes "a senior administration official"?


There's a difference between leaking gossip bits about the work environment politicians operate in and while its inappropriate, its nothing that's police state like but illegally leaking sensitive classified documents especially when there's no criminal wrong doing identified yet is another thing entirely.

There's a line between political assassination and exposing criminal acts.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:58 pm to
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Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119027 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:31 am to
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That Trump knew for weeks but they broke the news to Pence within the last 10 days?

That the administration was informed by DOJ that Flynn lied to them, but sat on it for some yet-unknown reason before yesterday?


Before those questions get answered we need to know what Flynn said to the Russian ambassador. Do we know?

FWIW, I'm for a full investigation by the FBI and the DOJ. Let's do this.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32750 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:15 am to
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You want the US to stand? To last the test of time? Then the people of the US had better start demanding the END of this type of politics. If not, what happens is a snow ball effect. The right has changed drastically on the local level and Trump should be your first clue.

They hired him because they view him as a tough guy. They are adopting the "end justifies the means" attitude of the left.

Is that ok with you? Can the right now:

1- Use the Irs to go after non profit organizations that promote liberal ideas?

2- Use the nuclear option for everything over the next 2 years?

I'm just saying. If this is where we are as a nation, then I want my side to win. So Let's roll.

As long as the leadership of the left acts this way, as long as the left MSM act this way..... I'm fine with the gloves off and fight fire with fire!

Great post. The DNC has become a hostile party and I think the American people realized it and decided they were finally going to engage the other side aggressively before it was too late. It feels like we're at a boiling point.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22506 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:46 am to
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disclosure of ALL the Trump campaign's communication with Russia.
Who remembers Obama's open mic moment with Putin, when he said to Vladimir something to the effect that he will be freer to "deal" once the election was over?
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