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re: Inhuman: Undercover in America's Late-Term Abortion Industry

Posted on 2/20/14 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 2:44 pm to
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They make life worth living. One is 10 and the other is 6. There are good times and bad. And I imagine there will be better times and worse times. But I am very grateful.

Ya, now just get some property/wealth to pass on to them. Like Kellogg Albran said, "The parents are the bow who shoot the arrows of their children into the future."
It's the most intense moment any man or woman will experience.
Posted by lsufanguy
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 2:45 pm to
LOL. Got some property....working on the rest of the wealth.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 2:45 pm to
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You sir are truly an ignorant pieces of feces.
Didn't Ohio just have a doctor who was flushing these late terms down the toilet and making jokes like "I could have walked that one to school. Har har har.". And there we have it folks, the tolerant left, everyone please stand and applaud. What fricking douches some of you are , hey let's save this poor guilty murderer from death row because he had an unhappy childhood but down the road at the PP let's rip out late term babies cuz their mama doesn't wanna miss out on any fun nights. Good job way to keep the streets safe by letting the innocent convicted murders go and killing the unwanted babies.


Once again, your use of rhetoric to incite the anti-abortion crowd is amazing.

Good work!

Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 2:46 pm to
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yeah because these are clearly the baby's fault and they deserve to be dismembered and sucked through a hose for it


By all means let's punish that girl for letting herself get raped.

Clearly she is at fault.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 2:46 pm to
asurob1:

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Once again, your use of rhetoric to incite the anti-abortion crowd is amazing.



asurob1:

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Good to know you hold simple females in such low regard.


Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 2:47 pm to
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With modern medicine, the risk of death to a mother who carries the child to term is incredibly small. It's currently about .00011% in the U.S.


Tell that to the .00011% Who die. And before you say what a small percentage we both know I know someone who died recently in childbirth (I have told this story before) who had zero complications...well zero until she died.

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Second, that risk is known from the moment of conception making the need for late-term abortions not existent.


and we both know this isn't always the truth.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 2:48 pm to
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Good to know you hold simple females in such low regard.






shhh...you're revealing my super power.

This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 2:49 pm
Posted by lsufanguy
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 2:54 pm to
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I know someone who died recently in childbirth (I have told this story before) who had zero complications...well zero until she died.


Truly sorry for your loss.

Honest question tho. In this instance, how would she have known she needed to have an abortion?
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:11 pm to
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LOL. Got some property....working on the rest of the wealth.



It's like an endless baton relay race, excepting if your bloodline dies out.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:18 pm to
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By all means attack a woman's right to an abortion by showing something that rarely occurs and pretending like it happens all the time.
Come on!

Should that process be legal?
It currently is.

A 24wk EGA infant born alive, then left on a surgical table to die?
That should be legal?
You know you don't believe that.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:20 pm to
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Honest question tho. In this instance, how would she have known she needed to have an abortion?


In this case she wouldn't have.

That's the point.

Every time a woman gets pregnant her life is at risk...people will play the game of ...well the risk is small...and it might be.

But to her husband and her remaining child the risk wasn't small at all.

Women should always have the right to abort their baby.

It's their bodies.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:22 pm to
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Come on!

Should that process be legal?
It currently is.

A 24wk EGA infant born alive, then left on a surgical table to die?
That should be legal?
You know you don't believe that.


We both know I believe in limits...and as long as those limits allow exceptions I am fine with it.

But the anti-abortion crowd doesn't believe in exceptions. If a few women have to die to get that fetus out there..

...so be it. You have seen that in this very thread.

To them any risk to get that life out of the womb is worth it...no matter the cost.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:29 pm to
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And I would imagine that one percent who doesn't accept it is grateful to have the choice to abort if she desires.
This thread is about late term abortions, what is the risk of an abortion at that time?

And presumably, it is not rape or incest or it would have been aborted much earlier. So we can reasonably infer the mother wanted the child. If there is a danger at that stage, take the child and try to save it, don't kill it in the womb and abort.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:40 pm to
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By all means let's punish that girl for letting herself get raped.

Clearly she is at fault.


right the inconvenience and risk of being pregnant for a few extra months is pretty much equal to being ripped limb from limb, amirite?



also - your "pregnancy is risky" trope is totally ignoring the risk of abortion to the mother (a much less negligible number btw)
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4341 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:42 pm to
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Every time a woman gets pregnant her life is at risk...people will play the game of ...well the risk is small...and it might be.
This is a non-starter, It's more risky to get in a car and drive to work.

Women do that every day without giving it a second thought so don't say people have a choice to drive or not.

1) they really don't if they want to function in the world,
2) none consider the risk high enough to stop them from traveling, and
Most importantly, 3) we are talking about late term abortions, so the time for choice has passed.

Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Tell that to the .00011% Who die.


That the risk of death is minuscule? There is risk in every activity. The risk of death in child birth is not significant enough to create policy because of it.



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we both know this isn't always the truth.


The overall risk of death is absolutely known at the time of conception. You're talking about subsequent, unknown risk to which we could probably find some common ground.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:48 pm to
I agree with the ends that live action is trying to reach but I'm not a big fan of their methods.

You go to an abortion clinic trying to get a particular response out of someone to try and expose them. Why should we believe that this is the norm when you go in with an agenda and do certain things to make sure they respond the way they do.

Pro-life people may hate me for this but I don't like live action.
Posted by lsufanguy
Member since Apr 2012
181 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:51 pm to
Oh I'm not a fan of those kind of methods either but the Planned Parenthood will never answer it honestly. Hell to be honest neither side of the parties will ever answer anything honestly. So if you want honest answers people have to do stupid crap like this.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:08 pm to
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And presumably, it is not rape or incest or it would have been aborted much earlier. So we can reasonably infer the mother wanted the child. If there is a danger at that stage, take the child and try to save it, don't kill it in the womb and abort.


We can not always presume its not about rape or incest.

And if you are playing devil's advocate say something goes left in month 8 that will kill the mother if she gives birth. It should be her choice whether or not she takes the risks that may cost her life or not.

Not some damn right wing zealot whose opinions don't matter to the family that is in crisis.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:10 pm to
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right the inconvenience and risk of being pregnant for a few extra months is pretty much equal to being ripped limb from limb, amirite?



what a laugh. Inconvenience to who? You...?



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also - your "pregnancy is risky" trope is totally ignoring the risk of abortion to the mother (a much less negligible number btw)


Every surgery, no matter how routine, has risk. Prospective Moms deserve to have the right to make the choice of abortion versus pregnancy...it's her body.
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