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I have a civics question about a comment Trump made yesterday
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:41 pm
This quote from Trump is getting a lot of play in the leftist media today:
Here's an example of the spin
Long story short, the people who are taking to the streets to shout "Not my president" are now complaining that Trump let a big secret out of the bag, namely that Republican representatives only represent the people who voted for them.
Politics aside, in a representative democracy/republic, whom do the representatives represent? Those who put them in office, or every single citizen in their district?
quote:
We’ve begun preparing to repeal and replace Obamacare. Obamacare is a disaster, folks. It’s a disaster. You can say, “Oh, Obamacare!” — They fill up our rallies with people that, you wonder how they get there, but they’re not the Republican people that the representatives are representing.
Here's an example of the spin
Long story short, the people who are taking to the streets to shout "Not my president" are now complaining that Trump let a big secret out of the bag, namely that Republican representatives only represent the people who voted for them.
Politics aside, in a representative democracy/republic, whom do the representatives represent? Those who put them in office, or every single citizen in their district?
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:44 pm to Frank Black
Or those who fund their campaign?
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:44 pm to Frank Black
Their entire district.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:45 pm to Frank Black
quote:
Politics aside
quote:
whom do the representatives represent?
Does not compute!
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:47 pm to Stingray
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Or those who fund their campaign
Exactly.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:49 pm to omegaman66
Trump is the President of all of us, even people like me who didn't vote for him.
US Reps and US Senators represent their districts, their states, and the nation at large. They represent all their constituents and not just their donors and voters.
US Reps and US Senators represent their districts, their states, and the nation at large. They represent all their constituents and not just their donors and voters.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:51 pm to GeorgeWest
they represent all the people in the district. They serve the entire nation.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:53 pm to Frank Black
Yeah, that's a valid criticism. Trump's ego and "winning" theme are over the top.
He's still better than Hillary, and he's turning out to be better than I thought he would be - vis-a-vis his actions and not his rhetoric.
He's still better than Hillary, and he's turning out to be better than I thought he would be - vis-a-vis his actions and not his rhetoric.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:56 pm to Frank Black
The represent everyone in their district, just as Trump represents everyone in the country.
It is hypocritical to scream "not my president" then get mad about him not doing the things you want or doing things you don't want.
It is hypocritical to scream "not my president" then get mad about him not doing the things you want or doing things you don't want.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:57 pm to Frank Black
Their donors
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:58 pm to Frank Black
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Politics aside, in a representative democracy/republic, whom do the representatives represent?
In the book world - everyone
In the real world - special interest that funded the campaign
Posted on 2/17/17 at 3:00 pm to MrLarson
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In the real world - special interest that funded the campaign
1. Donors
2. Constituents from their party
3. Party
4. Constituents not from their party
5. US citizens
Reality is probably closer to that, with 1 and 2 being interchangeable depending on the issue.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 3:09 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:
Trump is the President of all of us, even people like me who didn't vote for him.
US Reps and US Senators represent their districts, their states, and the nation at large. They represent all their constituents and not just their donors and voters.
All that may be true but it doesn't mean they have to support or vote in favor of legislation that their opposition wants but the people who voted for them don't want.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 3:12 pm to Frank Black
In theory, their entire district. In practice, don't try calling your local rabid dem rep's office if you're a Republican voter (ask me how I know). Sad but true!
Posted on 2/17/17 at 3:13 pm to Frank Black
Y'all are really missing the obvious, irrefutable, paramount, important point here:
Focus on important stuff.
quote:
Obamacare is a disaster, folks. It’s a disaster.
Focus on important stuff.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 3:19 pm to Frank Black
The special interest groups inside their districts. - signed, DNC.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 3:33 pm to Frank Black
quote:
Politics aside, in a representative democracy/republic, whom do the representatives represent? Those who put them in office, or every single citizen in their district?
They represent the wishes of the district, the voters of the district, and that means in all likelihood the people who voted for them.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 3:35 pm to Frank Black
He means small 'r' republican.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 4:00 pm to Frank Black
quote:Is this a serious question? They represent their constituents, whether they wish to accept that or not.
Politics aside, in a representative democracy/republic, whom do the representatives represent? Those who put them in office, or every single citizen in their district?
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:00 pm to Frank Black
You are supposed to represent everyone but the reality is they really only represent the ones who voted them in office. You cannot please everyone but a good politician should be in touch with all people he represents and pick his/her battles. Know what issues the majority will not cave on and know which issues are ok to compromise or vote with the opposition on to throw them a bone. It's all about balance
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