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re: I don't like the fact that Shulkin was unanimously confirmed as VA Secretary
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:03 pm to roadGator
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:03 pm to roadGator
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Please link to where I claim to work around the VA.
LINK
You claimed, stupidly, to have experience "building vast networks of providers who do so because of patriotism" and that it could be a replacement for the VA.
Perhaps you should step back into your element and make some more racist comments about Mexicans.
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:11 pm to BamaAtl
You are the dumbest "smart" person I've ever seen.
Your words:
"to have experience "building vast networks of providers who do so because of patriotism" and that it could be a replacement for the VA."
1- I said we as in the company I work for (note the We). I never said I did it personally. I'm not in that department. So, you stupidly ammended my words to fit whatever ridiculous need you have to be wrong.
2- You claimed I said it could be a replacement for the VA. I never said that so your lies continue.
What I said:
Keep telling fibs Mr. Bubble Boy. Again, you don't know half the shite you want people to believe you do.
I do find your know it all attitude entertaining though. Keep at it.
Your words:
"to have experience "building vast networks of providers who do so because of patriotism" and that it could be a replacement for the VA."
1- I said we as in the company I work for (note the We). I never said I did it personally. I'm not in that department. So, you stupidly ammended my words to fit whatever ridiculous need you have to be wrong.
2- You claimed I said it could be a replacement for the VA. I never said that so your lies continue.
What I said:
quote:
We build entire networks based on the economics that military programs provide
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However, one of the main reasons they join these deeply discounted networks is a sense of patriotism. These providers want to help our vets and service members. You don't have the answer to every question like you think you do, Mr. Bubble Boy.
Keep telling fibs Mr. Bubble Boy. Again, you don't know half the shite you want people to believe you do.
I do find your know it all attitude entertaining though. Keep at it.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:21 pm to Sentrius
The VA is actually ahead of the private sector is sharing of medical information. It's not all bad, and I use it. I'm fortunate becuase my VA facility uses interns from a nearby medical school, and that's not the case in all locations.
But the issue is bigger than just medical care. Their entire compensation and disability systems needs reformed. If it ever got reformed they'd need to increase these payments. Call it an entitlement all you want, and maybe it is, but I think if you were injured, especially in combat, you are entitled.
Back to point, one issue is fake disability. PTSD is a big one. PTSD is certainly real, but it is abused. One example.
Shulkin has proven to be pretty good during his time at VA.
Off the top of my head, I think the VA is the 4th largest government agency. Wherever it falls, it is one the largest agencies, and to this alone, prone to more waste and abuse.
The vast majority of the VA's medical care is very good. This doesn't forgive the parts that are obviously flawed. We couldn't fire those people in Arizona and other places not becuase of VA regulations, but becuase of federal government entering into collective bargaining with union thugs.
It is an agency in need to overhaul, but the entire federal government is.
Don't throw Shulkin under the bus yet. I can bore you with my reasons if you're interested. For the record, I favored Shulkin as one of Trump's good choices.
But the issue is bigger than just medical care. Their entire compensation and disability systems needs reformed. If it ever got reformed they'd need to increase these payments. Call it an entitlement all you want, and maybe it is, but I think if you were injured, especially in combat, you are entitled.
Back to point, one issue is fake disability. PTSD is a big one. PTSD is certainly real, but it is abused. One example.
Shulkin has proven to be pretty good during his time at VA.
Off the top of my head, I think the VA is the 4th largest government agency. Wherever it falls, it is one the largest agencies, and to this alone, prone to more waste and abuse.
The vast majority of the VA's medical care is very good. This doesn't forgive the parts that are obviously flawed. We couldn't fire those people in Arizona and other places not becuase of VA regulations, but becuase of federal government entering into collective bargaining with union thugs.
It is an agency in need to overhaul, but the entire federal government is.
Don't throw Shulkin under the bus yet. I can bore you with my reasons if you're interested. For the record, I favored Shulkin as one of Trump's good choices.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:12 pm to roadGator
quote:
I said we as in the company I work for (note the We). I never said I did it personally.
Then why the frick are we having this discussion? You just admitted you don't have a fricking clue what you're talking about.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:52 pm to BamaAtl
I mean, you and I have conversations about gun rights all the time, and you certainly have no clue on that subject. 
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:13 pm to BamaAtl
You really are stupid.
ICE, ICE baby.
ICE, ICE baby.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I do ont understand why we can't just give veterans vouchers/health funding payments that they can use at any private facility.
Some facilities do offer this. It's called ChoiceCare. Basically if the wait lists for a certain specialty service is too long, vets have an option of seeking care at an outside provider. The VA will approve so many visits, or a procedure/surgery with so many post op visits. We have a decent number of vets do that here as our waitlist is roughly about 2-3months for a clinic visit and 1-2months to schedule a surgery usually for my speciality.
A lot of news stories up here recently regarded that the vets are disgruntled with choicecare. I think some of it in part is that the vets do enjoy the one stop shop aspect of some of the VAMCs.
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As an aside I do think that some of the VA medical do have a niche is somewhat more vet related or combat related issues (PTSD, polytrauma rehab facilities, spinal cord injury) and are known within the community to be the best around. With that said, the private sector could obviously offer these services just wouldn't be as directed focus. At many of the larger VAMCs are associated with a academic medical center for many specialities so you are essentially getting the same doctors anyway
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:43 pm to Iowa Golfer
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PTSD is a big one. PTSD is certainly real, but it is abused. One example.
I agree, but I'd rather 100 veterans fake it, than 1 have it and not get help.
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