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Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:40 pm to TOKEN
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Bernie being allowed to preach his nonsense only moves his crazy policies closer to reality.
Correct
Even if he gets land slided his radical policies get that much more air time
There is no scenario in which anyone should want Bernie to win the nomination
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:40 pm to Kneehigh
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Trump would humiliate Bernie to the effect of Bernie pissing his pants on national tv.
Bernie will go toe to toe
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:40 pm to TOKEN
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This is exactly why I’m pro Biden
Biden doesn't have the mental acuity to last the election season. He's a walking gaffe machine.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:42 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Bernie will go toe to toe
They said the same about Hillary... She was humiliated... Trump takes no prisoners when it comes to the American People.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:42 pm to upgrayedd
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Biden doesn't have the mental acuity to last the election season. He's a walking gaffe machine.
I just need him to stop Bernie. Win nomination that’s it.
Joementun!
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:43 pm to boogiewoogie1978
quote:are you laughing because I’m high or low the states?
boogiewoogie1978
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Once again, you're wrong. For 2 reasons:
1) Bernie would "max out" at somewhere between 40-45% of the vote in a General election. Do you know what that would mean in Electoral College terms?
2) Bernie doesn't even have to win the nomination. He just has to do well enough to force the Democrat Establishment to take it away from him. If that happens, the Democrat Party convention in Milwaukee will explode.
Ever seen any footage of the 1968 Democrat Party convention?
1) Bernie would "max out" at somewhere between 40-45% of the vote in a General election. Do you know what that would mean in Electoral College terms?
2) Bernie doesn't even have to win the nomination. He just has to do well enough to force the Democrat Establishment to take it away from him. If that happens, the Democrat Party convention in Milwaukee will explode.
Ever seen any footage of the 1968 Democrat Party convention?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:45 pm to KCT
The mean Bernie Bros on Internet are apart of Antifa
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:46 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Bernie will be feisty but Trump will eat him alive
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It really doesn't matter. No Dem candidate is electable for moderate American voters. Bernie is WAY too left. Klobuchar slightly less, but still unelectable. Warren is just a fricking kook. Boo da judge is gay, so blacks won't vote for him, and Biden looks like he's about to keel over, plus muh Ukraine, so not electable.
The election is already over. Crown the Orange Man.
The election is already over. Crown the Orange Man.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:52 pm to SaintNation
quote:all but Bernie are wolves in sheep clothing. Bernie is the only one willing to not dress in costume.
Doesn’t matter which one wins. They are all completely insane and any of them win you can forget about the country as you know it. I’ll root for Bernie bc trump is the only chance to keep America as we know it.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I agree with this, we should not normalize his policies that are so opposite of American culture.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I am not voting in primary
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:01 pm to TOKEN
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I just need him to stop Bernie. Win nomination that’s it.
Joementun!
You shouldn't drink the bong water
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
We are going to have to agree to disagree. Bernie has the least chance of any of the Democrat candidates because his candidacy will split the Dem vote far more than any of the others would.
Let me put it this way: Liberals and those who consider themselves "Very Liberal" would vote for Biden, Mayor Pete, etc just as would the Moderate Democrats who aren't going to vote Trump. Sanders, on the other hand, will drive away Moderates (which are roughly 33% of the total Democrat voter base, at least according to polling data). So just by him being the nominee the Democrats will have already alienated around 1/3 of their voters.
Another aspect is that Dems cannot win without the black vote. Bernie does not appeal to them and hasn't really tried courting them, Trump does and has. Consensus has been for a while that if the Democrats lose 10% or more of the black vote to a Republican challenger, then that election is over. Trump will definitely pull double-digit support as long as the economy stays strong and minority Unemployment stays low.
Finally, whether those Moderate Democrats stay home, vote 3rd party or spite-vote for Trump will be fairly irrelevant as Trump has massive popularity and huge momentum on the Conservative side.
I've been stating for a while now I see this November shaping up to be 1996, just with the parties reversed, but if the economy keeps going so well and Bernie becomes the Democrat nominee it may well look more like 1984.
Let me put it this way: Liberals and those who consider themselves "Very Liberal" would vote for Biden, Mayor Pete, etc just as would the Moderate Democrats who aren't going to vote Trump. Sanders, on the other hand, will drive away Moderates (which are roughly 33% of the total Democrat voter base, at least according to polling data). So just by him being the nominee the Democrats will have already alienated around 1/3 of their voters.
Another aspect is that Dems cannot win without the black vote. Bernie does not appeal to them and hasn't really tried courting them, Trump does and has. Consensus has been for a while that if the Democrats lose 10% or more of the black vote to a Republican challenger, then that election is over. Trump will definitely pull double-digit support as long as the economy stays strong and minority Unemployment stays low.
Finally, whether those Moderate Democrats stay home, vote 3rd party or spite-vote for Trump will be fairly irrelevant as Trump has massive popularity and huge momentum on the Conservative side.
I've been stating for a while now I see this November shaping up to be 1996, just with the parties reversed, but if the economy keeps going so well and Bernie becomes the Democrat nominee it may well look more like 1984.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:15 pm to Bard
quote:you’re severely overblowing this number
Sanders, on the other hand, will drive away Moderates (which are roughly 33% of the total Democrat voter base, at least according to polling data). So just by him being the nominee the Democrats will have already alienated around 1/3 of their voters.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Support the nomination of the one who would be least damaging if elected
That might be Bernie. I say that because he would be completely ineffective. Republicans and most Democrats would not support his agenda.
The other Democrats might actually get some of their BS implemented of they won.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:32 pm to memphis tiger
I want Trump vs Bernie
Capitalism vs Socialism
When casual Americans at his the debates and participate in the election process. I want the most eyes available to see DJT wipeout Bernie and expose how radical his ideology really is
Then I want record low Dem turnout so the House turns and DJT really cleans up the DC Swamp
Capitalism vs Socialism
When casual Americans at his the debates and participate in the election process. I want the most eyes available to see DJT wipeout Bernie and expose how radical his ideology really is
Then I want record low Dem turnout so the House turns and DJT really cleans up the DC Swamp
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:35 pm to chalmetteowl
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you’re severely overblowing this number
You may be right, I was going off the numbers Tingly The Clown (Chris Matthews) mentioned the other day. Checking out the latest Pew poll shows almost half of all Democrats consider themselves Liberal or Very Liberal (by contrast, 20 years ago they were 20% less of the party). LINK
That adjustment (which is probably more accurate) just underscores my point of the wedge Bernie's nomination would drive into the Democrat voter base.
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