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re: I disagree severely with sirwinston et al: please don’t root for Bernie to win nomination
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I understand where you're coming from, and part of me almost feels that way. But, I think the contrast between Trump and Sanders would make for a very easy decision, for any anyone who is on the fence.
Those who have already made up their minds are not going to care who the Democrats put forward.
This process of determining who will be the Democratic nominee is more of a race to the bottom. None of them stand a chance of beating Trump. Not with the exhibition of insanity that they have put on.
Those who have already made up their minds are not going to care who the Democrats put forward.
This process of determining who will be the Democratic nominee is more of a race to the bottom. None of them stand a chance of beating Trump. Not with the exhibition of insanity that they have put on.
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:32 pm to Bokke
quote:Shows how little you know. FDR ran on REDUCING the size of government during his 1932 campaign. He ran on deficit reduction and lower taxes.
FDR was constantly branded as a socialist/communist...
1932 Presidential Election Map
quote:
FDR began his 1932 campaign for the presidency espousing orthodox fiscal beliefs. He promised to balance the federal budget, which Herbert Hoover had been unable to do. Indeed, when FDR came into office, the national deficit was nearly $3,000,000,000.
FDR's budget balancing was not only based on traditional fiscal economics, but also on politics. Roosevelt believed that a balanced budget was important to instill confidence in consumers, business, and the markets, which would thus encourage investment and economic expansion. As the economy recovered, tax revenues would increase making budget balancing even easier. This traditional view that deficits were bad was also supported by public opinion polls.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Balancing the budget was part of it but social, economic programs (The future new deal) and ending prohibition were also huge components.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:44 pm to Bokke
Bernie is no FDR and there is very little chance he can win FL or PA. Even smaller chance he can win 270 EV’s.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:44 pm to Bokke
quote:Nope.
Balancing the budget was part of it but social, economic programs (The future new deal) and ending prohibition were also huge components.
It was only after becoming president that fdr did a 180.
he was against hoover's interventionism.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:45 pm to YF12
quote:
Because if this country is so mentally retarded that they will vote for Bernard lets get this party started.
Enough of this slow boil to hell
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:28 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
If a commie can win, then we are already fricked.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:40 am to boogiewoogie1978
quote:
Bernie will go toe to toe
I'm about as pragmatic as anyone when it comes to politics. There are a couple of dem candidates that COULD take trump on under the right circumstances.
Bernie is not one of them.
0% chance he wins FL or PA...amd he's not even on record nationally with his policies. Most folks arent even watching.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 12:57 am
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:53 am to Bokke
quote:what had just taken place prior to 1932?
FDR was constantly branded as a socialist/communist...
1932 Presidential Election Map
And the other post about the war production board...it was socialist crap, but at least there was a semi legit reason for production guidelines and rations
Bernie is to the left of FDR
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:55 am to Bokke
quote:
The future new deal)
zero difference than what Bernie is proposing
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and ending prohibition
? Socialist?
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:07 am to YF12
Posted on 2/26/20 at 3:58 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
sirwinston
You’re both losers.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 4:50 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I tend to agree with OP.
While I do think the chance of Trump beating Sanders is higher it's not worth the risk.
The media doesn't want Sanders but they will totally rally around him if they have to.
A Sanders Presidency would be so insane and damaging it's not worth the risk, even if the risk is small.
While I do think the chance of Trump beating Sanders is higher it's not worth the risk.
The media doesn't want Sanders but they will totally rally around him if they have to.
A Sanders Presidency would be so insane and damaging it's not worth the risk, even if the risk is small.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 5:08 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I agree with the OP.
If democrats want to turn this country into a communist shithole by nominating Bernie Sanders, let them do it on their own. Don't give them any help.
If democrats want to turn this country into a communist shithole by nominating Bernie Sanders, let them do it on their own. Don't give them any help.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 5:29 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If you detest his policies, why support making him one step closer to Oval Office?
Every Dem candidate has awful policies; ALL OF THEM. At this point it's like rooting for the tallest or shortest midget.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 5:46 am to cssamerican
quote:
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter
The power of being told you’ll receive free shite and your debts wiped clean is powerful and precisely the type of stuff the founders worried about when it comes to a democracy. Of course people would vote for the one promising that. Once that happens democracy is dead.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 5:50 am to YF12
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Because if this country is so mentally retarded that they will vote for Bernard lets get this party started. Enough of this slow boil to hell
Bingo . The democrats keep taking more and more . If Americans are not smart enough to vote for Trump over Bernie then they deserve the hell Bernie will put us in.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 5:58 am to Seldom Seen
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Hillary Clinton will be the Democrat nominee.
At first I thought this was a joke but the closer we get the more I seriously think this is where it's headed.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 6:14 am to Oddibe
quote:This is way out of touch with reality. Some of you forget how appealing freebies are to at least 47% of this country. They don't think about the side effects.
Benrie will win 4 to 5 states max
Posted on 2/26/20 at 6:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Don’t play with fire
Totally agree - all we need is some economic crash from the coronavirus to launch an 'anybody but Trump" into the presidency - this would be the end of the nation - especiallialy considering the type of VP that he would tap = Bernie will probably not last 2 years in office.
Absolute disaster looming.
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