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Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:41 pm to cokebottleag
Upvote for the post, a gif for the clever thread title
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:42 pm to cokebottleag
Pitiful. With $20 plus trillion in debt we should have first class everything, but we don't. Education is a good example of that.
Politicians have been ripping off the American people big time. And when the feces encounters the overhead rotary blades - and it will - we are going to be shocked at who gets splattered.
Politicians have been ripping off the American people big time. And when the feces encounters the overhead rotary blades - and it will - we are going to be shocked at who gets splattered.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:43 pm to WHS
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Parents are 100% of the problem
~90%
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As a teacher
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you will do worst in school than
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As a teacher, I see this all of the time. The parent dosnt have to be rich to have a good student. It is all about parental involvement and how much the parent is involved with their students education and other school activities.
this is true
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:47 pm to WHS
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Parents are 100% of the problem.
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As a teacher, I see this all of the time
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:47 pm to cokebottleag
This is all about "equality" rather than providing a good education. Our schools are a giant social experiment, not institutions of learning.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:47 pm to WHS
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Parents are 100% of the problem.
If you are raised in a home environment where there is no parental involvement and the parent could care less, you will do worst in school than the student who has parents who care and are involved with their students education.
As a teacher, I see this all of the time. The parent dosnt have to be rich to have a good student. It is all about parental involvement and how much the parent is involved with their students education and other school activities.
then you agree with us.
the DOE is a waste of money.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:54 pm to LSU2a
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The biggest problem with our education system is that fact that it hasn't changed in 150 years and applies a single, standardized method of learning upon individuals who best learn in a variety of ways.
Common Core was all about fixing exactly what you speak of. It hasn't done jack shite. Teachers teach in all kinds of ways now, using manipulatives, songs, games, etc. fricking hell.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:07 pm to WHS
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If you are raised in a home environment where there is no parental involvement and the parent could care less, you will do worst in school than the student who has parents who care and are involved with their students education.
As a teacher, I see this all of the time. The parent dosnt have to be rich to have a good student. It is all about parental involvement and how much the parent is involved with their students education and other school activities.
This is what kills me about all of the homework that comes home at such a young age now. All that is happening is enormous gaps are being created between the kids who have parents at home to help them and those that do not.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:11 pm to Damone
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all of those employees!
Dem jobs doe
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:14 pm to SECdragonmaster
Yes I agree the DOE is a waste of time.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:15 pm to cokebottleag
quote:It is. And it's been renormed a few times (changes in sections and scores), but I believe it's equated every year to make better comparisons across years.
From their site, it looks like SAT scores about being linked.
The SAT is not norm referenced to my knowledge.
I think a major issue with the SAT and ACT is the distribution of test takers. The number of test takers is on an upward trend; I would imagine this is largely comprised of students who may not have taken it before, which brings the scores down to some degree.
I need to look again, but in grad school I looked at the distributions across years, and I noticed large increases in the percentage of Hispanic test-takers. While their quantitative scores were stable and pretty high, their verbal was not, probably due partially to language, not necessarily aptitude.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:24 pm to buckeye_vol
Is this the "Lies, damn lies, and Statistics" argument?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:30 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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So it costs more to go to school in 2010 than 1970? Groundbreaking material you have there.
Looks like we discovered who is responsible for dragging down the scores.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:07 pm to cokebottleag
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Common Core was all about fixing exactly what you speak of. It hasn't done jack shite. Teachers teach in all kinds of ways now, using manipulatives, songs, games, etc. fricking hell.
I don't think that you know what I'm talking about. Common core does not introduce project based learning or any of the other types of teaching methods that are found in few charter and private schools around the country. "Manipulatives, songs, games, etc." we are talking about grades beyond kindergarten here...
Our current education system is centered around preparing kids for standardized testing with century old classroom designed to maximize the quantity of content that students are exposed to. I suggest you actually take a little bit of time looking into alternative teaching methods such as that done at High Tech High in San Diego.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:12 pm to LSU2a
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I don't think that you know what I'm talking about. Common core does not introduce project based learning or any of the other types of teaching methods that are found in few charter and private schools around the country. "Manipulatives, songs, games, etc." we are talking about grades beyond kindergarten here...
Our current education system is centered around preparing kids for standardized testing with century old classroom designed to maximize the quantity of content that students are exposed to. I suggest you actually take a little bit of time looking into alternative teaching methods such as that done at High Tech High in San Diego.
Education is not supposed to be gimmicky . . . AT ALL. Regardless of formatting methods, dissemination of information needed for basic life skills is the target mode. This should essentially concentrate on instruction of conceptual content followed by practical application. The "student-centered" stuff your speaking of (and Common Core) is merely kowtowing to the needy liberal generation which got us in the mess we are in right now.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:15 pm to ynlvr
quote:Which part? The effects of the sample and the scores?
Is this the "Lies, damn lies, and Statistics" argument?
SAT Trends--2000-2010Just look at the language of the test takers. The non-English speaking increased by 3%. Don't you think that could have any impact on test scores, since reading (language heavy) decreased by 4 while math increased by 2.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:24 pm to cokebottleag
wow thats horrible, here's to hoping mrs devos can do something about that.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:27 pm to cokebottleag
Graph scales are a funny thing
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:29 pm to cokebottleag
I hope trump gets rid of school buses so I don't have to get stuck behind them every morning
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