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re: I am the Department of Education: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:32 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:32 pm to Eli Goldfinger
For all you making fun of teachers, I doubt that you'd last even one day as a teacher
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:36 pm to TBoy
quote:Given that the chart tells you the source of the data making it exceedingly easy to check, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "no, you don't really care to see the raw data........you just want to dismiss the obviously bad results without discussion".
Cato institute? I'd like to see the raw data please.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:38 pm to WHS
quote:What exactly does this have to do with the primary point?
Parents are 100% of the problem.
Assuming you are correct that Parents are 100% of the problem, then why all the clamor for more education funding?
Why do teachers argue that more money will help and then argue the opposite by saying money CAN'T help because parents?
Your point about parent's being 100% of the problem is an argument FOR reducing education funding, not against it.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:04 pm to WHS
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Parents are 100% of the problem.
Victim blaming. How pathetic.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:05 pm to ShortyRob
Our issues with our failing public education system in this country are merely symptoms of a much larger problem. One that started around...oh...lets say 1964 or so.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:32 pm to cokebottleag
Education in America will never improve until we improve the communities these kids are living in
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:36 pm to buckeye_vol
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For example, intelligence has risen (Flynn Effect), but even though the mean is always been 100, a 100 today reflects a level of intelligence greater than 50 years ago
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:40 pm to Centinel
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Our issues with our failing public education system in this country are merely symptoms of a much larger problem. One that started around...oh...lets say 1964 or so.
Why not just come out and say it cuck
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:40 pm to cokebottleag
Those unions aren't worried about better educated students.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:42 pm to bmy
You may disagree but I think it's better to ignore those that are so blantant in their racism. Calling attention to it seems to be counterproductive. Giving them the attention they desire.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:43 pm to Crimson Wraith
Well, we are ahead of Sweden now, so there is that!
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:50 pm to bmy
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Why not just come out and say it cuck
Because it's more fun to trigger people like you?
You probably have no idea what I'm talking about anyway
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:52 pm to roadGator
Probably true
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:55 pm to Centinel
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You probably have no idea what I'm talking about anyway
I'm going to guess it is not the low hanging fruit... And go with either Lyndon Johnson's war on poverty or with Barry Goldwater throwing his hat in the ring.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:03 pm to MrCarton
quote:You can largely reduce the explanatory factors school achievement into three broad categories: the student characteristics (IQ, emotional regulation, intrinsic motivation, etc.), environmental factors (family, community, peers, etc.), and the school factors (teachers, curriculum, intervention, etc.).
Victim blaming. How pathetic.
When you look at it it's entirety, the school is only a small percentage of the equation, and teachers have a proportion (although probably the largest) of that. In addition, the student characteristics are unlikely to change much.
The outside environmental factors (mainly home) and school factors are the only ones that that really controllable. And there is a lot reseach that supports the home factors are more signicant.
HOWEVER, even if less than we hope, teachers do have a signicant impact on student achievement, about 0.15-0.17 standard deviation difference between good and poor teachers in a single year.
So the 100% on parents remark is ridiculous from a teacher. And that external locus of control isn't typically associated with good performance.
Overall though, the problems are poor family environments and poor teachers. There are probably fewer poor teachers though; however, there impact is significant. Pm the other hand, once those factors get to average, the gains are diminishing.
In other words, good teaching and parenting isn't much more effective than average teaching and parenting, BUT both are signicantly more effective than poor teaching and parenting.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:07 pm to el Gaucho
I think people are seeing that graph and shitting on teachers without realizing that teacher salaries have been pretty much the same since 1970 (and declined relative to other professions).
Source and further discussion here.
Source and further discussion here.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:08 pm to bmy
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And go with either Lyndon Johnson's war on poverty
Well done sir!
Although me being a rabid libertarian, I absolutely hate any and all government "War on X" programs...I just think the War on Poverty has done the most damage to our nation as a whole.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:09 pm to Iosh
Yeah, teachers are not the problem here. Teachers unions, and parents are the problem here. When my wife teaches at a title I school, and tries to hold parent teacher meetings to talk about the children's progress and weak points, and out of a class of 30 she can only get two parents to show up, it's not the teachers that are the problem.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:11 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Kind of upsets me with all the property Tax I pay. Even still, we home school.
If you want the true double-whammy ... send your kids to private/parochial school.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:11 pm to cokebottleag
I've often thought that if you're going to go to some kind of tracking system for kids, the best way to separate them out is not through some standardized test, but just whether their parents show up when called.
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