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Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:39 am to Lsut81
The stats bear out that the majority of people are on welfare for a short amount of time and it's not inter generational.
But facts don't seem to matter much and this OP is exactly like most of the people who are taking advantage of the system.
He knew he couldn't afford a family and had one anyway on the government dime.
But facts don't seem to matter much and this OP is exactly like most of the people who are taking advantage of the system.
He knew he couldn't afford a family and had one anyway on the government dime.
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 10:40 am
Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:41 am to mahdragonz
quote:Apparently neither do links.
The stats bear out that the majority of people are on welfare for a short amount of time and it's not inter generational.
But facts don't seem to matter much
Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:43 am to Jbird
Show me a stat that claims welfare is intergenerational and the majority of people are on if for extended periods of time.
The OP claims he is the exception when he is exactly the typical profile of a welfare user.
The OP claims he is the exception when he is exactly the typical profile of a welfare user.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 10:45 am to mahdragonz
I was asking for you to link to your assertion, simple really.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:01 am to Broke
The idea that you repaid your welfare is missing the point that you would have paid the $750K regardless if you hadn't have gotten your girl friend pregnant.
I don't have any problem with what you did---you took the only option available to you and you did the right thing.
I disagree that the option was available. I would rather had seen a loan available to you to pay back over 10 or even 20 years so there would direct responsibility attached to your youthful indiscretions.
I don't have any problem with what you did---you took the only option available to you and you did the right thing.
I disagree that the option was available. I would rather had seen a loan available to you to pay back over 10 or even 20 years so there would direct responsibility attached to your youthful indiscretions.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:08 am to mahdragonz
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If you aren't responsible to have a kid, use fricking protection.
Glad to hear you knocked up a welfare queen.
If you want the real story, I was using a "lifestyle" condom and it broke on me. And she got pregnant. I wasn't making irresponsible decisions. It just happened. But regardless it was a bad situation that turned out ok.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:08 am to mahdragonz
quote:
The OP claims he is the exception when he is exactly the typical profile of a welfare user.
How old are you frickin people? You clearly aren't old enough to associate with adults yet
Lafayette and much of S.LA just topped the nation for job loss in back to back years
Lafayette/BR got hit with like a once in a 500yr flood.. and many didn't have floor insurance
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:11 am to I B Freeman
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I don't have any problem with what you did---you took the only option available to you and you did the right thing.
I disagree that the option was available. I would rather had seen a loan available to you to pay back over 10 or even 20 years so there would direct responsibility attached to your youthful indiscretions.
But why shouldn't I use a system designed for people like me? It's not like I was in my 20's drinking cold beer on the front porch every day not even looking for a job. I asked for the absolute minimum amount of help that I needed. I worked at night and went to school during the day. I slept for 4 hours every weeknight for 2 years.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:12 am to Broke
And if you want to say that I made a bad decision I'm OK with that. In hindsight I ended up with a beautiful child that has grown into a wonderful adult. I would do it over again.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:18 am to Broke
quote:
But why shouldn't I use a system designed for people like me? It's not like I was in my 20's drinking cold beer on the front porch every day not even looking for a job. I asked for the absolute minimum amount of help that I needed. I worked at night and went to school during the day. I slept for 4 hours every weeknight for 2 years.
Yeah. You sucked the government tit the right way!
You don't know that other people aren't looking for jobs or anything else. You just think you are a snowflake who was the exception.
Not like them....
Let me guess, you also think you are conservative too?
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:20 am to Broke
So be honest.
Are you going to tell your kid that he was a welfare baby?
Or when people you know talk about welfare do you say that it really helps people?
Are you going to tell your kid that he was a welfare baby?
Or when people you know talk about welfare do you say that it really helps people?
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:26 am to Broke
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If you want the real story, I was using a "lifestyle" condom and it broke on me
Should have a used a Trojan, that's what I use when I know it's going down.
LOL. But honestly im happy it turned out well. Sometimes lifeel gives us a hard punch in the ribs. I'm glad you found a way to help yourself out.
I don't see a problem with using the system as long as you make the best the of the situation like you did.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:30 am to Broke
Welfare isn't supposed to work. If welfare is working then something is wrong.
Your story is about how you couldn't keep it in your pants. Everytime you have sex you risk pregnancy unless you are sterile (or gay). Maybe it would be best for society to get rid of contraception all together so people would have to make good decisions and quit being whores. It is good that your story worked out for you though. Congrats on the kid and success story.
Your story is about how you couldn't keep it in your pants. Everytime you have sex you risk pregnancy unless you are sterile (or gay). Maybe it would be best for society to get rid of contraception all together so people would have to make good decisions and quit being whores. It is good that your story worked out for you though. Congrats on the kid and success story.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:41 am to Broke
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I wasn't making irresponsible decisions.
You shouldn't have sex if you can't afford a child.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:55 am to mahdragonz
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mahdragonz
I know you think this is some kind of gotcha. However, I don't know of anyone that is against short term welfare and other assistance.
(I'm sure there are some hardcore libertarians that do)
This concept is not contrary to conservatism.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:59 am to mahdragonz
quote:
Are you going to tell your kid that he was a welfare baby?
Why would I need to tell them? It isn't a black mark on me. It's something that happened.
quote:
Or when people you know talk about welfare do you say that it really helps people?
I've told my story hundreds of times. A story of how the system is supposed to work. A story that ends with me paying a shitload of taxes that can help the next person in a situation like mine.
Who it doesn't help are the habitual offenders who think of it as a way of life as opposed to a helping hand.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:07 pm to dcrews
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The fact that his was temporary and not generational.
Except that, factually, the substantial majority of welfare participants usually only receive those benefits temporarily.
Two thirds of those who used Medicaid, for example, starting between 2009 and 2012, were off the program in less than three years. Of those who remained on the program for the full four years, the majority were the elderly, minors, or (financially) poor single mothers.
The same statistics held for food stamps. And those two programs are far and away the largest general welfare programs in the country.
The stereotype of generational welfare abuse is basically just that: a stereotype.
There are absolutely those who abuse the system, but their numbers are hugely overestimated in the usual narrative.
As a result, you get stories like the OP's, where he attributes his use of social welfare to be just and exemplary, while decrying anybody else's use because, of course they must be abusing the system. When he sees the heavy set woman at the grocery store using foodstamps, he rolls his eyes in disgust.
But how does he know that she's not in a temporary situation outside of her control, like he presumably was (despite knocking up his girlfriend, which is a wholly avoidable experience)? What if she was part of a single income household, and her husband recently died in a car accident? What if she's working on finishing her associates degree so she can get a job to keep herself afloat, at which point she would transition back off of WIC?
Of course not. She's abusing the system. That lazy hack.
Except, statistically, she's probably not.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:10 pm to Broke
quote:
I had joined the Army
welfare
Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:13 pm to terd ferguson
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I had joined the Army
quote:
welfare
I hope you're joking. 
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