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Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:27 am to msutiger
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If Trump had a similar personality to Cruz, Cruz would have won the primaries in a landslide.
the primaries were over march 1st on the SEC super tuesday. cruz was a regional candidate, that's not a knock against cruz. bill clinton was a regional candidate. for a regional candidate to win he has to dominate his region, that way when he moves into less friendly territory he does so with an air of invincibility.
when cruz failed to dominate his region it was over for him he should have withdrawn and supported the front runner and lived to fight another day. traditionally when a candidate can no longer (as cruz pointed out regarding kasich ironically) win a first ballot nomination they withdraw and support for the sake of party unity.
kasich on the other hand is a nut job.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:27 am to AUbused
The right aren't ones who have decriminalised infecting another with AIDS or who have made the act of perusing anti-Islamic websites worthy of 15 years in the gaol, mate. And that's just this past week, innit?
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 8:28 am
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:28 am to Revelator
You, of all people on this board, should appreciate the content of that article since you are one of the few posters here that isnt afraid to call Trump out on BS. Which is fricked up for me to be saying to you because, pre-Trump, you were one of the biggest crazies here. 
Thats how far we've come folks.
Thats how far we've come folks.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:31 am to AUbused
5 Stages of Grief:
Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance.
Nearly a year after the election, and you idiots are still somewhere in the bold.
The consequences were a Hillary Clinton presidency. Nobody with a brain wanted to face those consequences. Take it from an ardent Ted Cruz supporter, Trump has been an incredibly pleasant surprise. If the liberal GOP supported him, he would have already accomplished everything I wanted Cruz to do, and more.
I don't know who this idiot is, but did you just read your sentence above that I quoted? A liberal writer commenting about conservatives and republicans in an alternative reality bubble. Really? Self-awareness among socialist democrats is completely non-existent, isn't it?
Dickheads like Sykes would be on the sidelines complete with mini-skirt and pom-poms if Evan McMullin had somehow won, and done half of the things that Trump has accomplished. He just don't like the fact that Trump is busily returning the giant middle finger that socialist democrats and establishment republicans have been giving conservatives and the American people for decades.
Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance.
Nearly a year after the election, and you idiots are still somewhere in the bold.
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I get the motivation to burn the GOPe down and I get that Trump was a protest vote for many, damn the consequences
The consequences were a Hillary Clinton presidency. Nobody with a brain wanted to face those consequences. Take it from an ardent Ted Cruz supporter, Trump has been an incredibly pleasant surprise. If the liberal GOP supported him, he would have already accomplished everything I wanted Cruz to do, and more.
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Sykes thinks its the result of the alternative reality bubble that appeals to emotion and outrage as opposed to intellect and now its beyond control.
I don't know who this idiot is, but did you just read your sentence above that I quoted? A liberal writer commenting about conservatives and republicans in an alternative reality bubble. Really? Self-awareness among socialist democrats is completely non-existent, isn't it?
Dickheads like Sykes would be on the sidelines complete with mini-skirt and pom-poms if Evan McMullin had somehow won, and done half of the things that Trump has accomplished. He just don't like the fact that Trump is busily returning the giant middle finger that socialist democrats and establishment republicans have been giving conservatives and the American people for decades.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:33 am to msutiger
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That means, Republicans will have the ability to continue what was accomplished during the tea party movement with senators like Sasse and Cruz.
That's really funny considering after the 2014 election when the country bought into their bullshite and gave the Republicucks the House and Senate then all they did was proceeded to get on their knees and suck off Harry Reid and Nancy Peloci. to this day all the republicucks do is open their asses the democrats on the hill. They are the problem not the president. They don't like the president because he makes waves in their cuck circle jerk convention.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:36 am to troyt37
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Bargaining, Depression
there stuck on bargaining. since they have no leverage the reality is they're stuck on stupid.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:39 am to AUbused
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During the 2016 election, conservatives turned on the principles that had once animated them. Somehow a movement based on real ideas—such as economic freedom and limited government—had devolved into a tribe that valued neither principle nor truth; luminaries such as Edmund Burke and William F. Buckley Jr. had been replaced by media clowns such as Ann Coulter and Milo Yiannopoulos. Icons such as Ronald Reagan—with his optimism and geniality—had been supplanted by the dark, erratic narcissism of Donald Trump. Gradualism, expertise and prudence—the values that once were taken for granted among conservatives—were replaced by polls and ratings spikes, as the right allowed liberal overreach in the Obama era to blind them to the crackpots and bigots in their midst.
Tone policing, thanks. Also: The right has been animated by a diverse group of ideas. Further proof above that neither the left nor the GOPe had any idea about what motivated voters on the right.
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Some have argued that the election was a binary choice, that Hillary Clinton had to be defeated by any means. I share many of their concerns about Clinton, but the price was ruinous. The right’s electoral victory has not wiped away its sins. It has magnified them, and the problems that were exposed during the 2016 campaign haven’t disappeared. Success does not necessarily imply virtue or sanity. Kings can be both mad and bad, and the courtiers are usually loath to point out the obvious—just look at Caligula or Kim Jong Un.
Today, with Trump in office, the problems of the right are the problems of all Americans. And the worst part of it is that we—conservatives—did this to ourselves.
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But the real turning point came with the election of Barack Obama and the rise of the Tea Party. While many of its discontents can be traced to the Bush years—Medicare Part D, changes to immigration policy and the big-bank bailouts—the Tea Party did not gain traction until after Obama’s victory. The timing fueled suspicion that the movement had more to do with the new president’s race—and party affiliation—than his policies,
The timing had nothing to do with his race, and furthermore, the DNC would have and did characterize every attack on him as racism, which the author falls for.
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Civility was the first calculated casualty.”
Civility on only one side is call stupidity.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:39 am to SirWinston
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The right aren't ones who have decriminalised infecting another with AIDS
Or harboring known criminals in their safe cities. This just blows my mind in the common sense department on what is wrong with the left.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:42 am to AUbused
Ah some never trumper shitass who thinks Hillary would have been better
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:47 am to AUbused
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You think that has nothing to do with it? Come on man.
I cringe at half of his tweets and think they are not necessary now that he is POTUS. But that came with the package. His IDGAF attitude is what I like best about him. Right now he is exposing the GOPe to the world that they are nothing but liars and frauds and that they don't give a frick about fixing anything in DC. This needed to happen and I've always been told and always tell people when you need help you can't bitch about how help comes.
Like him or hate him Trump is probably the only person in that field of candidates that could have done this. He is doing America a great service with what he is doing right now.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:48 am to AUbused
quote:It really is all the analysis the “article” deserved.
thats the best you can do.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 8:48 am
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:50 am to AUbused
quote:Good insights in this article. It somewhat harkens back to Jeff Flake’s characterization of many in conservatism suffering from a “diseased mind.” A whole growing subculture which is essentially the ideological and temperamental yang to the radical left’s yin.
If there's already a thread on this. Whatever. When, I read this article I thought about the decent conservative posters here who, while I disagreed with them, weren't the sad, sycophantic hacks we see here today.
Perhaps it’s like a fever that’ll break before they take to the streets.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:52 am to MrLarson
Like I said. I get all that. No shite, I really do. I fricking hate the machine and, even though im on the flip side, I fricking hated HRC for the same exact reasons. I hated her so much I wouldnt even vote for her over Donald fricking Trump.
That being said, the point of the OP article is that it acknowledges all that(well maybe not all), but speaks to a deeper level of whats going on in the GOP. The party used to celebrate intellectualism and conservative ideals, but has become much more emotion based and guttural. Playing to the base instincts of the masses with targeted outrage media. I just personally hope we didn't turn down a one way road here.
To be fair, I think thats a problem manifesting itself in broader society as well and obviously liberalism. Stupid fricking Trumpkins in this thread think that is a valid argument and justification of conservatives doing it, which is pathetic.....but what I've come to expect.
That being said, the point of the OP article is that it acknowledges all that(well maybe not all), but speaks to a deeper level of whats going on in the GOP. The party used to celebrate intellectualism and conservative ideals, but has become much more emotion based and guttural. Playing to the base instincts of the masses with targeted outrage media. I just personally hope we didn't turn down a one way road here.
To be fair, I think thats a problem manifesting itself in broader society as well and obviously liberalism. Stupid fricking Trumpkins in this thread think that is a valid argument and justification of conservatives doing it, which is pathetic.....but what I've come to expect.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 8:54 am
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:55 am to AUbused
quote:Because he would have been branded “extreme” and “right wing” by the Progressive machine. Because all the Left knows is hatred and divisiveness. Identity politics. Your side has created this environment of no prisoners, winner takes all, slash and burn. And the Right finally produced a candidate that knows how to play the game that way. The only one who had a chance against this onslaught was Donald J Trump. Congratulations.
Why not Rand?
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:02 am to Navytiger74
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It somewhat harkens back to Jeff Flake’s characterization of many in conservatism suffering from a “diseased mind.”
Flake is a flake.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:15 am to TheHarahanian
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The right starts winning national elections, and the response from sources like Newsweek is "You're in so much trouble! Better change what you're doing!"
Exactly.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:18 am to AUbused
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The party used to celebrate intellectualism and conservative ideals, but has become much more emotion based and guttural.
Conservative intellectualism was confined to a few dark corners of the national consciousness. You had to actually put in effort to find it through the deluge of leftist culture and intellectualism.
Suddenly a different version of the rigth wing starts winning using the left's tactics, and the complaints mostly amount to "It's not fair, you should be going back to your corner where you belong, right wing!"
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:21 am to cokebottleag
I'll just respond with the sentence right under the one you copied
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To be fair, I think thats a problem manifesting itself in broader society as well and obviously liberalism. Stupid fricking Trumpkins in this thread think that is a valid argument and justification of conservatives doing it, which is pathetic.....but what I've come to expect.
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