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Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:12 am to cajunangelle
Cajunangell,,,,Spot on !!!!!!!!!! 
AND IT'S THE LEFT THAT LOST THEIR MINDS....
AND IT'S THE LEFT THAT LOST THEIR MINDS....
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 8:16 am
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:13 am to AUbused
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You were one of the reasonable posters turned sycophant I referenced in the OP.
Calling out political foes out on their bull shite doesn't mean you are necessarily trying to gain an advantage. It just means you are exposing their bull shite.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:14 am to AUbused
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I'd argue that the fact that Trump won on his personality makes things worse.
Trump didn't win on his personality, trust me. His personality almost cost him the election. One of his saving features was his ability to get in the gutter and fight just as dirty as the left and the establishment.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:15 am to msutiger
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For starters, the party needed to change. It has never been controlled by real conservatives. The tea party movement was the first time real conservative candidates saw success across the board. The rejection of Luther Strange showed that, A) Trump is not the leader of this movement and B) Republicans are tired of the establishment It will be interesting to see how the 2018 mid-terms go, but I think strong conservative candidate will continue to have success and build on what started in 2010.
Completely agree with you.
Shapiro’s podcast the other week stated the very thing you just mentioned. Trump isn’t/anti establishment started long before Trump came and will be relevant long after Trump. He was just a vessel to help ride the momentum.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:15 am to AUbused
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You were one of the reasonable posters turned sycophant I referenced in the OP. A damn shame.
Here's some food for thought for you.
Do you ever remember Trump framing the election as liberal or conservative or even saying those words much at all? I think a lot of intellectuals on both the left and right refuse to admit that's one big reason out of several that enabled Trump to do so well in the rust belt.
If Trump went the way "intellectuals" like Sykes wanted in the rust belt, Hillary Clinton would be in the Oval Office right now.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:17 am to MrLarson
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His personality almost cost him the election. One of his saving features was his ability to get in the gutter and fight just as dirty as the left and the establishment.
Agree.
Trump's most notable trait is he owns the down side.
So, "yeah I said grab'm by the pussy. Sorry."
I can't think of another politician that owns the down side like Trump.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:17 am to MrLarson
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His personality almost cost him the election.
Trump even recognized this and gave up the Twitter for two weeks before the election. That started a couple days before comey dropped the email bomb.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:17 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
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The only thing I'll add to this is that if Republicans had chosen anyone other than Trump to run against Clinton then it really would have been Her turn. Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Red Cruz weren't strong enough to defeat her. Trump was the only candidate we had that was strong enough to beat her and he beat her in a landslide
What made him strong enough? It wasn’t his appeals to intellectualism, principled convictions, and strongly reasoned policy.
It was his cult of personality, fostering of tribalism, white identity politics, and appeals to emotion.
Which backs up the core premise of the OP. And when the vast majority of responses to the piece are variations of ad hominems and “whatabout dims,” I’m not sure that is doing anything but strengthening the article’s argument.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 8:23 am
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:17 am to AUbused
Let's assume this author is right. Now let's look at the alternative that is the Democrats platform:
Transgender Bathrooms Rights
Open Borders (creating a flood of cheap labor that suppresses wages and puts Americans out of work)
We'll take as many Islamic Refugees as we can get!!!
Black Lives Matter
Microagressions
Safe Spaces
Trigger Warnings
Suppression of even main stream conservative speech/thought on college campuses, in the media and workplace
Accusations of "white priveledge, toxic masculinity, rape culture"
Gun Control
Religious Freedom threatened
Patriotism=Racism
Oh, and the presidential candidate was Hillary Clinton... a corrupt, contempable, joyless, ball busting, sickly old bitch who has been the face of conservative hate since 1992
Now, I'm an average, right leaning, but not overly ideological Dude. I have a white collar job, I'm not particularly religious, I have some positions that lean a little left of most conservatives. I vote my wallet. I have three sons that I need to get through college and make sure have opportunities when they get out. I voted Kasich in the primary.
In theory, the Democrats should be able to appeal to me. They should be able to convince me to switch sides on occaision.
My list above is literally everything I have heard from the left over the last three years or so... that's the platform. What in that message is supposed to appeal to me? How does any of that help me set up my sons for success? Cause that's my only real issue.
Transgender Bathrooms Rights
Open Borders (creating a flood of cheap labor that suppresses wages and puts Americans out of work)
We'll take as many Islamic Refugees as we can get!!!
Black Lives Matter
Microagressions
Safe Spaces
Trigger Warnings
Suppression of even main stream conservative speech/thought on college campuses, in the media and workplace
Accusations of "white priveledge, toxic masculinity, rape culture"
Gun Control
Religious Freedom threatened
Patriotism=Racism
Oh, and the presidential candidate was Hillary Clinton... a corrupt, contempable, joyless, ball busting, sickly old bitch who has been the face of conservative hate since 1992
Now, I'm an average, right leaning, but not overly ideological Dude. I have a white collar job, I'm not particularly religious, I have some positions that lean a little left of most conservatives. I vote my wallet. I have three sons that I need to get through college and make sure have opportunities when they get out. I voted Kasich in the primary.
In theory, the Democrats should be able to appeal to me. They should be able to convince me to switch sides on occaision.
My list above is literally everything I have heard from the left over the last three years or so... that's the platform. What in that message is supposed to appeal to me? How does any of that help me set up my sons for success? Cause that's my only real issue.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:18 am to AUbused
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Of course this will largely fall on deaf ears because this forum
Especially when we don't even bother to read it.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:18 am to Sentrius
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If Trump went the way "intellectuals" like Sykes wanted in the rust belt, Hillary Clinton would be in the Oval Office right now.
Sykes addresses this in the article. Did you even read it? Or are you afraid to look in the mirror?
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 8:19 am
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:19 am to AUbused
William Buckley is dead.
Hail the Trump Republican underclass.
Hail the Trump Republican underclass.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:20 am to GumboPot
What is the OP's story? Is he one of the ones that does a GOPe neverTrump concern troll thread every week? Or, is he a true diehard Rand Paul supporter; that if even some miracle happened and Rand Paul won the primary, he actually thinks that Rand could win the rustbelt or a State like Wisconsin?
It makes no logical sense, that anyone at this juncture could think any of the 2016 republican contenders could have won anything but a crown for Hillary Clinton with Jebra! as runner-up.
It makes no logical sense, that anyone at this juncture could think any of the 2016 republican contenders could have won anything but a crown for Hillary Clinton with Jebra! as runner-up.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 8:25 am
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:22 am to MrLarson
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Trump didn't win on his personality
So, im getting different arguments from different people here. If Trump didn't win because of his personality then what was it? His platform? Many of the candidates were saying the same thing, but to the personality point.....Cruz seems slimy and Rand comes off like an ivory tower geek. Trump is an "alpha"(although Id argue he is one of the biggest pussy beta's ive ever seen and just postures as alpha). You think that has nothing to do with it? Come on man.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:23 am to Seldom Seen
Id expect nothing less from a dude who everyone on the PT knows is the biggest Trump cocksucker on the board. You and a few others seem to be in competition for the title.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:23 am to AUbused
This entire analysis is actually why "THE LEFT" is doing so poorly of late.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:24 am to AUbused
Better title for the thread would be
WHY NEWSWEEK SOLD FOR $1
WHY NEWSWEEK SOLD FOR $1
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:25 am to AUbused
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HOW THE RIGHT LOST ITS MIND
How can anyone read this headline and not laugh? The left is a haven for mentally unstable people.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:26 am to Taxing Authority
Sad. You were one of the better conservative posters as well and thats the best you can do. Perhaps you'd care to actually read the article(which is essentially a preface to a new book) and actually give your thoughts. 
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