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How the frick can a non sitting president be impeached?

Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Friedbrie
Abita Springs
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:58 pm
It's absolutely bullshite the taxpayer is funding this clown show in DC. But what choice do we have when we have a damn income tax?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:59 pm to
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How the frick can a non sitting president be impeached?
He cannot.

Of course, Trump was still the sitting POTUS when the House impeached him.

The question is whether a duly-impeached official can be TRIED on his impeachment after leaving office. Reconstruction-era Senate precedent says “yes,” but SCOTUS has never addressed the question.
This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 10:04 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71436 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:01 pm to
They probably don't even have the articles yet
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16303 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:03 pm to
It's all a moot point for as much as the Senate Republicans hate Trump, they'd rather leap from the top of the Washington Monument than vote to convict him.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40152 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:03 pm to
TRUMP still is president. He never conceded and Biden is illegitimate.
Posted by Hidden Tiger
Member since Jun 2019
1111 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:04 pm to
picture of clown world

dot that says: this is where you are
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53836 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:07 pm to
Just hang in there, we are so close! I think we are headed for bad times in this country!
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20223 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:10 pm to
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How the frick can a non sitting president be impeached?


Ya know, this has possibilities. Which former Dem POTUS can the Republicans Impeach if a miracle happens and they ever get elected again? Can they be deceased? I don't see why not since Impeachment is Political and it can be pure BS as the past two have been.
Posted by LSULaw2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1695 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:24 pm to
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The question is whether a duly-impeached official can be TRIED on his impeachment after leaving office. Reconstruction-era Senate precedent says “yes,” but SCOTUS has never addressed the question.


The problem with people trying to rely on the so called precedent is the individual in that case resigned to avoid the impeachment vote. Trump's term of office expired by law. That seems to be conveniently ignored.

The entire premise of the "precedent" is that federal officials shouldn't be able to resign prematurely to avoid impeachment. That's not applicable here.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26329 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:30 pm to
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The problem with people trying to rely on the so called precedent is the individual in that case resigned to avoid the impeachment vote. Trump's term of office expired by law. That seems to be conveniently ignored.

The entire premise of the "precedent" is that federal officials shouldn't be able to resign prematurely to avoid impeachment. That's not applicable here.


So federal officials should have free reign for the last few weeks of their terms? Why would the same principle not apply? The framework clearly did not intend for lame ducks to be untouchable or their actions unsanctionable.
This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 10:32 pm
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 11:37 pm to
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Reconstruction-era Senate precedent says “yes,”

No they didn't.

In fact, the Senate voted for acquittal, specifically stating that they had no authority over a civilian.
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 11:50 pm to
He can't. The US Constitution says, " The Chief Justice of SCOTUS must preside over the impeachment of POTUS."
J Roberts has already said he will NOT be there.
If he isn't there, no n-peachment can be conducted. No one else is allowed to preside.
This will be another fake n-peachment just like the fake Muller probe.
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:08 am to
If they tried to impeach Hillary or Obama, would you be arguing the same thing?
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
11342 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:10 am to
frick off ambulance chaser
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34911 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:12 am to
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How the frick can a non sitting president be impeached?


Same way he was fraudulently investigated/impeached the first time. Corrupt Deep State/Dem Party.

Edit! Forgot to include RINO enablers.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 10:14 am
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8141 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:17 am to
He can't. Or at least not when the USA based it system of government on the Constitution. But I guess that ship has sailed.
Posted by The Goon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2008
1243 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:17 am to
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So federal officials should have free reign for the last few weeks of their terms? Why would the same principle not apply? The framework clearly did not intend for lame ducks to be untouchable or their actions unsanctionable.


Trump is no longer President and is no longer shielded from criminal prosecution. If he committed a crime in DC, have the DA submit charges for insurrection.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:39 am to
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quote:

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How the frick can a non sitting president be impeached?
He cannot.

Of course, Trump was still the sitting POTUS when the House impeached him. The question is whether a duly-impeached official can be TRIED and CONVICTED on his impeachment after leaving office. Reconstruction-era Senate precedent says “yes,”
No they didn't.


Belknap WAS impeached by the House. He was not convicted by the Senate.
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In fact, the Senate voted for acquittal, specifically stating that they had no authority over a civilian.
Not exactly.

The Senate voted twice. First, they voted as to whether then had jurisdiction, given that he had already resigned by the time that the House adopted Articles of Impeachment. The Senate BARELY voted that it nonetheless HAD jurisdiction to proceed. (A majority, but less than 2/3)

After finding that they DID have jurisdiction, the Senate then heard the SUBSTANTIVE claims and proceeded to vote on conviction. The vast majority of those voting against conviction did so because they felt they had no jurisdiction. Everyone knew they guy was a crook.



I completely understand continuing an argument based upon either (1) differing ideology or (2) differing interpretation of ambiguous facts.

I will never understand people who insist upon continuing to argue based upon "facts" which are demonstrably- and objectively-inaccurate.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 10:52 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:58 am to
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How the frick can a non sitting president be impeached?

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He cannot.

Agree

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The question is whether a duly-impeached official can be TRIED on his impeachment after leaving office. Reconstruction-era Senate precedent says “yes,”

It's still unconstitutional bc the PURPOSE of the trial is to remove a sitting President and NOTHING else.
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