re: How many abortions are result of mother's health?

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By every stretch abortion is essentially legalized murder. With that said it has to be legal. Mind you, i dont believe a person should do it for reasons that are selfish. Also every woman who has it done isn't a monster.

At this point I'll bring up an anecdote from a personal friend of mine. She got pregnant at 19 from a long term boyfriend. She and him combined only had 20 hours of courses at a community college and made due with less than 18k a year and had no family support due to early deaths.

She fought the decision everyday and told next to no one. Her boyfriend died driving drunk a few days after she discovered this and he never knew he was going to be a father.

The only life she could have given that child was a poor life where it had nothing and very likely would never made it up in life in her mind. She did it, but has never for one day not felt bad for doing it.

It has been years now and she has even regressed further in life, partially from her own poor choices and partially bad luck. She would have been a poor mother and knows that.

The problem though is whether knowing that kid would have had a bad path in life vs just having a life was the right thing. She still doesnt know the answer to that question and I know it still haunts her.

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Stories like this help paint the entire picture.

So they're generally going to be found as unwelcome. You are allowed to paint these people as unrepentant monsters or sufferers of the most horrific injustices perpetuated by man. There is no middle ground of understanding. Only vilification.

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Womens: Hey this baby is preventing me from partying
Govt: Go ahead and kill it

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Absurdist examples don't make your case for you.

No one obligates you to donate a kidney to save a life. Even if that life is your own child.

By this logic, the government should require parents to donate any and all organs, without their consent, for the possibility of saving their child.

That's not your organ, it's the state's.

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wait wait wait. Are you comparing the act of killing to the inaction of willfully donating ones organ?


you're insane

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He's comparing killing voluntarily to allowing a death via chance opportunity. Not comparable if you ask me.

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You think? This isn't comparable to any sane, rationally thinking human being.

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wait wait wait. Are you comparing the act of killing to the inaction of willfully donating ones organ?


you're insane

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I'm comparing the willful choice that leads to the death of another living being to the willful choice that leads to the death of another living being.

The child is not an autonomous organism in regards to the stage of life we are discussing. If it cannot survive on its own, then it lacks that designation.

A child in a horrific car crash can also be in a situation where it will not survive on its own.

The parents are not obligated in the second situation to donate any part of their body to save their child. Indeed, a Jehovah's Witness cannot by the tenets of their own faith.

Equating abortion to murder because the mother exercised autonomous rights to her own self is the same as stating you murdered that guy in the ER that you were a compatible match to but you refused to donate a kidney.

Causing the death of another person because you were unwilling to sacrifice the rights to your own body to do so is not illegal in this country.

I'm O+. Does that mean every time I was unable to donate blood and someone died, I should be persecuted?

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I'm comparing the willful choice that leads to the death of another living being to the willful choice that leads to the death of another living being.

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Well shite, why didn't you say so? Now we can lump in the person who has to slam his breaks on the road which causes the person behind him to divert, slam into a tree and die into your stupid, inane analogy. Breaking is willfull, and it lead to the death of the person behind him.


you are insane

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The child is not an autonomous organism in regards to the stage of life we are discussing. If it cannot survive on its own, then it lacks that designation.

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Glad to know you support postpartum abortion.

Not as many as those from mom being a whore

I wonder the percentage done on actual pros

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Well shite, why didn't you say so? Now we can lump in the person who has to slam his breaks on the road which causes the person behind him to divert, slam into a tree and die into your stupid, inane analogy. Breaking is willfull, and it lead to the death of the person behind him.


you are insane

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Your debate tactics are trite. If you do not accept my statement, fine. I am not going to waste energy in engaging you in a these juvenile attempts to prove your point. If you cannot address your beliefs academically, I have zero interest in moving forward.

I saw testimony of a Dr. in congress that did over 1500 abortions. He said not one of them was for medical reasons. He said C sections are much safer and easier to do for the mother's health in 999 out of 1001 cases.

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When does the spark of life take hold? What do you consider a living, independent human, with the same qualitative value of life as yourself?

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You already know the answer to this question, so you should probably get to your point

I've had the same question for years - along with just how many "back alley coat hanger" abortions were really performed.

DEMrats are nothing but empty vessels spewing meaningless/irrelevant phrases. They do not have a single significant issue that is not based on groundless assertions.