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How many abortions are result of mother's health?
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:07 pm
Are there any concrete figures available detailing the percentage of performed abortions which are due to life risk of mother? This is the most common argument I hear from the "pro choicers" as their gotcha question, and I am curious what the actual number is. It's funny, because it appears to be nothing more than a distraction from the real issue of them wanting to allow moms to be the ability to kill a living being for the purpose of selfish desires; however, they hide behind this "health of mother" issue.
So, what's the percentage both overall and for late term abortions?
So, what's the percentage both overall and for late term abortions?
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:09 pm to Midget Death Squad
Article with citations
eta: It says 1% but the figure says 3% for health of the mother, so idk.
eta: It says 1% but the figure says 3% for health of the mother, so idk.
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Are there rare cases when abortion is necessary to save the life of the mother? Yes. As mentioned above, these rare cases occur less than 1% of the time. In fact, even if you lump in all NON life threatening health issues that are cited by mothers as a reason for abortion then the total number only increases to 2.8%. [4]
This post was edited on 2/1/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:10 pm to Midget Death Squad
I was thinking of this the other day. The left uses mother's health, rape, and fetal deformities as a rally cry but they have to be in the >5% category. The vast majority have got to be "I just don't want a baby" abortions.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:12 pm to upgrayedd
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The vast majority have got to be "I just don't want a baby" abortions
Yup.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:13 pm to Midget Death Squad
1:100,000,000
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:14 pm to upgrayedd
It is a concern, but its ignoring the other 97% of pregnancies that dont affect the life of the mother.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:14 pm to Midget Death Squad
The time that would be to protect the life of the mother would likely be an ectopic pregnancy and that would be terminated prior to 12 weeks. That's a legit reason.
If the embryo implants in the Fallopian tube, then that could rupture as the baby grows and cause the death of both mother and child. The choice is not one of the mother's comfort over the baby's life, the choice is then to save the mother do you sacrifice the child or do you not do anything and risk both lives. It's a different thought process altogether.
If the embryo implants in the Fallopian tube, then that could rupture as the baby grows and cause the death of both mother and child. The choice is not one of the mother's comfort over the baby's life, the choice is then to save the mother do you sacrifice the child or do you not do anything and risk both lives. It's a different thought process altogether.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:15 pm to Old Sarge
Well sometimes I think they count emotional well being, which seems very slippery.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:16 pm to Midget Death Squad
Irrelevant imo. If you don't agree with abortion don't have one.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:17 pm to Midget Death Squad
I'm going to guess less than 1%.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:17 pm to Midget Death Squad
so small it's basically irrelevant. Liberals love to make a huge mess over something that basically isn't a thing
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:18 pm to NYNolaguy1
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It is a concern, but its ignoring the other 97% of pregnancies that dont affect the life of the mother.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm completely against abortion but I realize that people are going to have them anyway so it should be legal. I just wish they would stop calling it "reproductive rights" and call it what it really is - a convenient escape from irresponsible behavior. They can have an abortion if they want just not on my dime.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:19 pm to When in Rome
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When in Rome
Thanks!
This proves what I suspected. It's like the pot issue: proponents rally behind medical necessity just as the abortioners do. I say be honest about your position and argue what you truly desire and believe. It's the deception that infuriates me more than anything else.
What I don't get are the GOPers who will fall into this slippery slope argument and say they don't agree to rape, incest and health exceptions. I do understand the rationale that doctors and womens will lie about these issues in order to destroy a baby, but so be it. What they need to do is grant them this point and then instill fraud laws for those caught.
ETA: just saw your post, and it's very similar to my thinking
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Don't get me wrong here, I'm completely against abortion but I realize that people are going to have them anyway so it should be legal. I just wish they would stop calling it "reproductive rights" and call it what it really is - a convenient escape from irresponsible behavior. They can have an abortion if they want just not on my dime.
While I don't agree with the "they will do it anyway" argument to maintain legality of it (might as well legalize theft, rape and such, since those will also be done anyway), you stated exactly my thinking of own up to your true desire and make your case based upon that
This post was edited on 2/1/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:23 pm to Midget Death Squad
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What they need to do is grant them this point and then instill fraud laws for those caught.
I see what youre getting at but theres nothing about this that screams small government. In fact its big government at its finest.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:24 pm to NYNolaguy1
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I see what youre getting at but theres nothing about this that screams small government. In fact its big government at its finest.
It's "big government" to protect peoples' lives? Since when? Might as well do away with all manslaughter and murder laws if that's the case, because, you know, "big government."
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:29 pm to Midget Death Squad
If the mother's health is dependent on not going through birth then partial-birth abortion is never for the health of the mother because 90% of the baby comes out before the procedure is terminated.
Bill Clinton vetoed a bill by Congress to ban late term abortion because the bill specified the exemption as 'physical health.' He wanted 'psychological health.' IE, the baby coming out alive would make mommy mad therefore injuring her psychological health.
Bill Clinton vetoed a bill by Congress to ban late term abortion because the bill specified the exemption as 'physical health.' He wanted 'psychological health.' IE, the baby coming out alive would make mommy mad therefore injuring her psychological health.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:30 pm to When in Rome
quote:The other 2% could be anything from insomnia to IBS. Even if it is 3%, that means 97% of abortions performed were for convenience, for purely selfish reasons.
says 1% but the figure says 3% for health of the mother, so idk
Woman's life would be changed too much? Really? That makes eliminating a child justifiable?
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:31 pm to Midget Death Squad
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While I don't agree with the "they will do it anyway" argument to maintain legality of it (might as well legalize theft, rape and such, since those will also be done anyway), you stated exactly my thinking of own up to your true desire and make your case based upon that
I get your idealistic approach, but it's just not practical at this point. I think the best approach is to keep it legal but try to persuade expecting mothers to go the adoption route. There are thousands of families that are begging to give a child a home.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:32 pm to upgrayedd
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The vast majority have got to be "I just don't want a baby" abortions.
Yep.
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:32 pm to Midget Death Squad
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It's "big government" to protect peoples' lives? Since when? Might as well do away with all manslaughter and murder laws if that's the case, because, you know, "big government."
It's big government to apply the power of the state to remove the mother's right to body autonomy. By that logic, every parent who is a Jehovah's Witness should be locked up when they refuse to donate blood to save their child.
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