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Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:54 pm to mouton
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You do realize this was a joke right?
It most certainly wasn't a joke and if you believe it was, watch the actual long drawn out video and you will see the painful truth in excruciating detail just how serious he was.
The hilarious part is that after he shows us that he thinks islands float, he goes on the lecture the panel about the horrors of global warming!
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:25 pm to Revelator
It most certainly was a joke. Him and the admiral he was questioning are old friends.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:27 pm to mouton
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It most certainly was a joke. Him and the admiral he was questioning are old friends.
Right. Him and the admiral went on for 7 or 8 minutes taking up everyone's time simply for some inside joke? You should probably stay on the food board.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:34 pm to Revelator
Perhaps you should learn wtf you are talking about.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:38 pm to mouton
quote:He spent three minutes of questioning/comments on a joke?
It most certainly was a joke
No.
Johnson contracted Hep-C several yrs ago. He was struggling with it. He likely was mildly-moderately encephalopathic at the time (aka: a bit 'touched' in the head).
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:42 pm to NC_Tigah
The hep-c probably explains his rambling speech but this was clearly an inside joke between him and the Admiral. Do you seriously think he thought an island could capsize?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:42 pm to mouton
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Perhaps you should learn wtf you are talking about.
Look guy. You can even go on Snopes if you like which is no conservative site and they say that it was a real dialogue and provide the entire transcript. If you want to continue to defend this guy than that's your choice.
Johnson: This is a[n] island that at its widest level is what ... twelve miles from shore to shore? And at its smallest level ... uh, smallest location ... it's seven miles between one shore and the other? Is that correct?
Willard: I don't have the exact dimensions, but to your point, sir, I think Guam is a small island.
Johnson: Very small island, about twenty-four miles, if I recall, long, twenty-four miles long, about seven miles wide at the least widest place on the island and about twelve miles wide on the widest part of the island, and I don't know how many square miles that is. Do you happen to know?
Willard: I don't have that figure with me, sir, I can certainly supply it to you if you like.
Johnson: Yeah, my fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize.
Willard: We don't anticipate that ... the Guam population I think currently about 175,000 and again with 8,000 Marines and their families it's an addition of about 25,000 more into the population.
Johnson: And also things like the environment, the sensitive areas of the environment, coral reefs and those kinds of things, and I know that lots of people don't like to think about that but ... you know, we don't think about global warming either, and now we do have to think about it, and so I'm concerned from an environmental standpoint whether or not Guam is the best place to do this relocation. but it's actually the only place, is that correct?
Willard: This is the best place, this is the farthest west U.S. territory that we own and this is part of our nation, and in readdressing the forward presence and posture importance to Pacific Command, Guam is vital to this decision.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:45 pm to mouton
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Do you seriously think he thought an island could capsize?
Yes.
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this was clearly an inside joke between him and the Admiral.
Do you think Johnson utilized time during a congressional hearing to forward an inside joke?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:50 pm to Holden Caulfield
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Do you think Johnson utilized time during a congressional hearing to forward an inside joke?
That is exactly what happened. Johnson is known to have a very dry sense of humor.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:58 pm to mouton
quote:I can tell you the Admiral interpreted it that way. There was no perception of a joke on his part.
Do you seriously think he thought an island could capsize?
The admiral's admirably measured military response to Johnson received praise across the board. He has never to my knowledge has he since expressed that he interpreted Johnson's observations as a joke.
Do you have a link to the supposed Johnson-Willard friendship?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:08 pm to NC_Tigah
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[quote]First of all, although this is a little-known fact, he and Admiral Willard, the man he is questioning in the video, are old friends. They met in 1986 on the set of the film "Top Gun." Willard was a consultant and actor in the film (you can look it up), but the telegenic Johnson also played a bit role in the film as one of the other pilots. Willard and Johnson struck up an acquaintance on the set, finding that they shared a remarkable gift for deadpan humor. They developed a number of routines that had the other "Top Gun" actors and extras in stitches, and were both known for keeping a straight face throughout the silliest exchanges, a skill that served them remarkably well during their recent encounter in Congress. One of their old routines involved a bit about landing an airplane on the island of Guam. The joke was about how small and narrow the island was, so thin it couldn't even hold a runway, and so any landing might cause the whole island to tip over. It may not sound so funny in print. But it was Johnson and Willard's delivery that made it so special.
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:22 pm to trackfan
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This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:47 pm to mouton
That's strange because when asked by Politico magazine about the Guam issue, he never mentioned any of the things you said;
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“I wasn’t suggesting that the island of Guam would literally tip over,” said Johnson. “I was using a metaphor to say that with the addition of 8,000 Marines and their dependents —an additional 80,000 people during peak construction on the tiny island with a population of 180,000 — could be a tipping point which could adversely affect the island’s fragile ecosystem and could overburden its stressed infrastructure. Having traveled to Guam last year, I saw firsthand how this beautiful — but vulnerable island — could easily become overburdened, and I was simply voicing my concerns —albeit with a dry sense of humor — that the addition of that many people could tip the delicate balance and do permanent harm to Guam.”
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:51 pm to Revelator
Just can't admit you were wrong can you? He has said in multiple interviews that it was a joke and he was using a metaphor.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:56 pm to mouton
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Just can't admit you were wrong can you? He has said in multiple interviews that it was a joke and he was using a metaphor.
Which is it? Was it a joke between friends waisting everyone's time, a metaphor or neither? He tells conflicting stories and you seem totally comfortable covering for him in either of his versions.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:56 pm to trackfan
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What the hell are you talking about? The PLO didn't exist during WWII...
You are correct so I've edited my post and replaced "PLO" with "Palestinians".
That's really what I wanted to say anyway.
Do you think Israelis should forget about Palestinians supporting the Nazis in WW2?
LINK
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...and anyway, today Israel has relations with the Germans, the actual perpetrators of the Holocaust.
At least the Germans have apologized for the Holocaust.
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Germany's response to its war crimes has been largely lauded by the former Allies. The Government of the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany until 1990) offered official apologies for Germany's role in the Holocaust. Additionally, German leaders have continuously expressed repentance, most notably when former Chancellor Willy Brandt fell on his knees in front of a Holocaust memorial in the Warsaw Ghetto, also known as the Warschauer Kniefall in 1970. Germany has also paid extensive reparations, including nearly $70 billion to the state of Israel. It has given $15 billion to Holocaust survivors and will continue to compensate them until 2015. Additionally, the government of Germany coordinated an effort to reach a settlement with German companies that had used slave labor during the war; the companies will pay $1.7 billion to victims. Germany also established a National Holocaust Memorial Museum in Berlin for looted property.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 4:00 pm to mouton
Hank Johnson did replace Cynthia McKinney who probably isn't aware an island called Guam exist so I suppose he's a step up.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 4:12 pm to mouton
quote:I'll leave it alone after this, because it's totally off topic. I know someone who happened to be in meetings with Willard the week of the Johnson thing. Willard did not register the "tip over" question as a joke.
Just can't admit you were wrong can you?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 4:19 pm to NC_Tigah
I wonder how long I can keep this going?
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