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re: Here's Jeff Sessions asking Sally Yates if she would say no to the President
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:47 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:47 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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You guys keep throwing this line out yet many many constitutional scholars argue it is unconstitutional
Like those on CNN and MSNBC?
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:47 am to germandawg
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quote: PLease share with us your Constitutional argument. Personally I think it is a good idea to ban immigration based on religion....now that we have set the precedent we can use it to argue for the banning of Christian immigrants in the future....eventually we will rid this great nation of the biggest barrier to greatness we face...religion.... That is of course unless y'all are convinced that the United States is always going to be in its current state of apartheid where a minority controls all levels of government. We may well be since the only force in the world that was able to reign in Fascism and South African style apartheid were liberal western republics like the United States...the world and man may have well seen the end of such states. I don't know that many westerners think Russia or China will be as benevolent as NATO has been..... It is pretty easy to see that the grand experiment that was the United States of America is failing....the people are unable to govern themselves...or at least that is what the argument is going to be in dictatorial circles when the US does indeed fail.....
Help me out here. What exactly is your Constitutional argument?
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:49 am to gthog61
quote:
So what?
What she was opposing isn't unconstitutional
mic drop
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:49 am to the808bass
So...we ever going to get a reason why the moratorium (the correct term) is unconstitutional?
I've seen a lot of hyperventilating that it's unconstitutional, but no citation of why.
I've seen a lot of hyperventilating that it's unconstitutional, but no citation of why.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:52 am to germandawg
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Bull shite....they always have and when we get over this temper tantrum by the right because a black man was elected they will again....
Non-citizens on U.S. soil have limited rights. Visa holders have limited rights. Immigrants and refugees in foreign countries who have not been given Visas have ZERO rights under our constitution. They are non-entities who may as well not even exist.
The president can ban "any class" of immigrant from entering the U.S. for any reason.
Even if it were deemed illegal based on religion, that's not what this is and it can't be proven that's what this is. Giuliani has no role in the admin and anything he says is just hearsay anyway. Anything said during the campaign has no standing currently.
This chick was acting in a purely partisan way. It's completely indefensible.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:54 am to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:
You guys keep throwing this line out yet many many constitutional scholars argue it is unconstitutional.
No, they're not. Dershowitz and Turley both said it isn't unconstitutional. Who are you quoting?
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:55 am to gthog61
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Noncitizens have no rights under the constitution.
Yeah this is just not true at all.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:56 am to Mudge87
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Yeah this is just not true at all.
Correct. They do not, however, have a right to a visa with no restrictions or additional screening.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:56 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Immigrants and refugees in foreign countries who have not been given Visas have ZERO rights under our constitution. They are non-entities who may as well not even exist.
Wrong.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:02 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Sally Yates is an American hero.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:08 am to Mudge87
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Yeah this is just not true at all.
Non citizens in Syria?
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:13 am to Mudge87
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Wrong.
OK Mr. Dershowitz, what rights under the U.S. Constitution does a random guy in Syria have? (Non-visa or green card holder)
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:18 am to Mudge87
Im curious too. How does a foreign person born outside of the US and never even stepped foot on our beautiful soul have a single US right?
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:19 am to mmcgrath
quote:That is why Christians were among the first turned away?
Because it was a de facto Muslim ban.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:32 am to germandawg
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this temper tantrum by the right because a black man was the biggest steaming pile of turd president in the history of this country.
FIFY
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:36 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Here is a clip of Jeff Sessions (Current AG nominee) asking Sally Yates (the acting AG fired by Trump last night) if she'd be willing to refuse improper or unlawful requests by the executive branch. The context is important: She was being asked if she'd ever stand up to the (Democrat) President if he presented her a request that was improper or unconstitutional. She Answered in the affirmative. She was confirmed 84-12-4. Sessions voted against her.
You need to inform us because you have presented yourself on this board as an attorney: Does POTUS have the constitutional authority to do what POTUS Trump did with regard to this recent immigration issue?
If you say it is unconstitutional, please tell us why.
Thanks.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:47 am to Champagne
There will be crickets or some lame "Giuliani said ... " bullshite.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:48 am to Draconian Sanctions
Actually you're 100% wrong and almost every unbiased Con lawyer would agree.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:54 am to gthog61
quote:
Noncitizens have no rights under the constitution.
Just STFU when you have zero clue what you're talking about.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:55 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You're a hypocrite who supports your "team" over the constitution
Listen, you lying no good bastard, all of you libturd assclowns were perfectly fine with y'all's shite stain, obamba, shitting all over the constitution for the past 8 years. If anyone is a hypocrite it's your sorry, useless, lying arse along with every other liberal. Illegals/refugees don't have any constitutional rights. They're called illegals for a reason.
You freaks are certifiably retarded and have no shame or morals in any ounce of your being, whatever the EFF you freaks are. So take you useless lying babble and shove it up your arse and if you don't like that America is getting back to normal now, take yourself and every other miserable, useless liberal out of this country and go live in your rainbows and unicorns world elsewhere.
And most importantly, GFY with that hypocrite bullshite. Look in the mirror, douche nozzle.
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