re: Having "The Conversation"

I am white. Had this conversation with my kids as well. I don't understand how so many blacks can be so myopic. Like they think it's just sunshine, rainbows, and candy corn all day long if you're not black. It just boggles mind, and I am SO tired of race apologists. None of us can help the race or life situation we were born into, but every single person can work for what they want.

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Like they think it's just sunshine, rainbows, and candy corn all day long if you're not black

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it's self delusion and cognitive dissonance if a non-minority tries to explain it

i just read an article about self improvement and one major thing that people don't realize is that when you take the time to improve in an area (whatever...health, education, reading, etc), you have to give up that time that was spent in other areas (that you prefer).

you go to any "disenfranchised" group and what you will find way more often than not, is that they have NO concept of the effort it takes to get into the positive positions they think are just handed to people. this is why poor people are disproportionately fat, smokers, uneducated (by choice), underemployed, having children out of wedlock, etc.

My dad told me to respect the badge, but people earn respect and if the cop is not respecting you, you're not obligated to respect him/her. Never consent to a car search, and if you're caught doing something wrong that could lead to an arrest, refuse to talk without a lawyer present.

I'm not gonna pretend that being black doesn't make dealing with law enforcement more difficult.. As we continue to push more stoicism and military functionality towards departments, we will continue to experience the opposite result from intended. People, including myself as an upper middle white guy, feel threatened more than protected by the police..

With that, my parents had the talk with me from an early age.. We discussed that cops were not a judge/jury and that polite compliance was the safest route to take.

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Why do you come in contact with the police every year and a half? Is it possible that they're only thugs in your mind because you got caught doing something you shouldn't have?

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No, it's because I live in Baton Rouge. In BR, most of the police are from Livingston Parish, and come into work every day with an "us vs them" mentality. They have quotas for tickets and trump up charges constantly to maintain those quotas since they get bonuses based on the number of tickets they write. It costs more to contest the tickets than it does to pay them. Go to Tigerland and you will learn all you need to know about Baton Rouge police: 5 cop cars near the bars writing DUIs, MIPs, busting kids for possession, ect all while someone is murdered 200ft away, no suspects ever charged. Sickening.

I am always polite and considerate, but the police threaten people in my car during traffic stops and spread me on the hood and pat me down...when I wasn't even speeding and they weren't radaring. Thanks to all of the events having police as security, traffic accidents, check points, traps, crime, ect, there's almost no avoiding BRPD in the city.

don't drink and drive don't find yourself in possession of illegal substances.
I lived my first 30 years in New Orleans with a police force far more maligned than Baton Rouge's a and when I got stopped I never had a problem. of course I wasn't drinking and driving or in possession of illicit substances or had mouthy friends in the back of the car.
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They have quotas for tickets and trump up charges constantly to maintain those quotas since they get bonuses based on the number of tickets they write

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Absolute bullshite right here. Where do you get your info from that they pay bonuses for writing tickets?

We are experiencing the symptoms, of a greater philosophical argument. The core of the argument - and this "conversation" - goes to respect for Authority.

And like D'Souza pointed out in his documentary "America"..."Barack Obama did not create the movement...it created him". The 'movement' - and it's symptom, disrespect for the prevailing, traditional Constitutional Authority - is what inspires the folk who express contempt for the social, economic *injustice* that is manifest in the streets.

Everybody that can't get stuff by working the production of a good or service (job) route...wants stuff; and a lot of those will gladly blame society/Capitalism, which defines them/their ability/their worth for their inability to attain affluence. So, the perceive that it's the 'system'...and Obama/Progs/Marxist Egalitarian Ideology...lend moral and intellectual support to this narrative. So, all who buy in are in effect, aggrieved, persecuted, and have a moral right and impetus to fight against the unjust Capitalist system which holds them down.

That's it. It won't go away, because as the Marxist ("spread the wealth around") policy SHRINKS the economy, QE goes south, and the pie becomes smaller and inflationary costs get larger...the indignation and contempt for Authority will only grow. Attempts to control violent outbursts with a necessarily 'militarized' Authority - for the sake of civility and the dissemination of essential goods and services - will be met with an increasing level of self-righteous contempt, and sooner or later...the terrorism/martyrdom card. Remember the guy that shot the cop...and within a day, there was a memorial to the shooter in the street.

This will run it's course. There is no solution...because from the TOP (Obama/Progs/Egalitarian Marxists Ideology), down to the Hood...perception becomes reality. Quantum Theory confirms the ultimate affect of Subjectivity. It rules.

Earth 2014. Humanity figuring out the rules, "tilling the soil" after the 'fall'...and moving forward to true freedom, glory and Greater Love.

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This is just stupid. I have family in law enforcement and only write tickets when needed.

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I also had a family member in law enforcement, and I can't speak to Baton Rouge Police, but the department he worked for absolutely had a ticket quota. It wasn't a written policy, more of an understood wink-wink policy. Generally the officers that were recognized for exemplary service were the ones that wrote the most tickets.

A couple of years ago, a former cop in Auburn blew the whistle on it there. Of course the police department denied and it's a difficult thing to prove since there's no written policy on it.