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re: Have we discussed Daily Stormer and Stormfront getting banned from the internet?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:27 pm to StrongSafety
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:27 pm to StrongSafety
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But sadly, even scum is protected by the 1st amendment and I do think it is a very dangerous path to take in banning free speech. i despise them more than anyone but even I feel like it could be a bit of censorship.
When the left loses StrongSafety on something, you know they really done fricked up.
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:28 pm to asurob1
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Nothing stops them finding another ISP.
Their domain name was what was stolen so they can’t just find another ISP
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:35 pm to cwill
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Yeah, I think you're still confused.
looks like one of us is,and it ain't me.
Only a retard is afraid of words and ideas. Like the trio of chimps,holding their hands over their mouth, eyes and ears.
Now,if you have a financial stake in any of this,I can understand you wanting whatever is good for your side,but as a free human being,no ideas should be limited.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:36 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Do you want to live in a world where a handful of tech companies gets to decide what is and is not on the internet?
No.
So how is making the internet a utility going to prevent that? Putting internet access in the hands of a government and running like an entitlement program is the only thing worse than what we have now.
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:37 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
quote:Except no one is banning free speech. Just admit that you hate the free market.
When the left loses StrongSafety on something, you know they really done fricked up.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:40 pm to auggie
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Everything is free for anybody to see,with all the craters and scars,but if you live in a basement in The Bronx,it's going to cost you some money to go look at it.
Can people in New York not see the moon? I'm confused
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:40 pm to MrCarton
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Putting internet access in the hands of a government and running like an entitlement program is the only thing worse than what we have now.
No it would be better because the government is constitutionally prohibited from infringing the right of free speech while individuals (and individual corporations) aren't.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:42 pm to JuiceTerry
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Just admit that you hate the free market.
Do you want corporations deciding what information the public is and isn't allowed to consume? Because I don't. The daily stormer was one of the most popular websites online. If it was up to "the free market" it would not habe been shut down. It's a complicated issue. It's a civil rights issue. What about the free market of ideas?
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:43 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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No it would be better because the government is constitutionally prohibited from infringing the right of free speech while individuals (and individual corporations) aren't.
A private company kicking you off their service isn't a free speech issue.
But I assume your comment is sarcasm because nobody is dumb enough to think the government doesn't violate rights because "muh constitution".
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:44 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
I want that much more than I want the government telling private entities who they can and can't choose to do business with.
quote:They should start their own ISP
What about the free market of ideas?
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:45 pm to MrCarton
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nobody is dumb enough to think the government doesn't violate rights because "muh constitution".
Actually the area of free speech is one where the law has been very good at keeping government overreach contained.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:47 pm to el Gaucho
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Can people in New York not see the moon? I'm confused
if you are in the city,even sunshine is limited,like being in a deep valley or canyon... obstructions..
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:48 pm to JuiceTerry
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I want that much more than I want the government telling private entities who they can and can't choose to do business with.
Ok here is a real world analogy. I own a restaurant. I hate black people. I want to ban blacks from eating at my restaurant. Should I be allowed to do this?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:49 pm to auggie
Damn that's crazy, how do they not get rickets
I've never been up north tbh
I've never been up north tbh
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:50 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Actually the area of free speech is one where the law has been very good at keeping government overreach contained.
Right, because "free speech" is sacred here, and the magical US constitution will construct a force field around free speech like the one it built around the 2A and 4A amirite?
*big hint: the government will violate every amendment for whatever reason it deems necessary.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:51 pm to JuiceTerry
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Except no one is banning free speech. Just admit that you hate the free market.
Someone gets it.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:51 pm to JuiceTerry
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I want that much more than I want the government telling private entities who they can and can't choose to do business with.
Prepare yourself for alt-right logic.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:52 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Ok here is a real world analogy. I own a restaurant. I hate black people. I want to ban blacks from eating at my restaurant. Should I be allowed to do this?
Yes. Next question.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:54 pm to MrCarton
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Yes. Next question.
You should be banned from the internet for this hate speech!
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:55 pm to auggie
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Only a retard is afraid of words and ideas. Like the trio of chimps,holding their hands over their mouth, eyes and ears.
That is completely irrelevant to any argument I made but it does inform as to your confused position.
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Now,if you have a financial stake in any of this,I can understand you wanting whatever is good for your side,but as a free human being,no ideas should be limited.
How about I, an individual, own a web hosting company and I, individually, choose not to give a platform to racists.
What is your argument, concisely?
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