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re: GOP Trying To Sell Off Public Lands
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:00 pm to DeltaDoc
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:00 pm to DeltaDoc
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Tell me why I should be a fan.
owning the land as a country is socialism.
you are trained to prefer egotistical rich people's preference, the rich own the best things and no one can stop them.
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:01 pm to beebefootballfan
Is Nevada even a state?
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:01 pm to Jim Rockford
Zinke is from Montana and is a hunter. Can't imagine he'd be for it.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:03 pm to imjustafatkid
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I don't think the government should own any land, so I support this 100%
Why don't you agree with Trump that our federal public lands are great? I think having a shitload of public land for anyone to go use to hunt, fish, target practice, hike, 4x4 etc is American as frick.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:03 pm to CelticDog
If this type of socialism lets me kill large bull elk and catch 20" browns, then call me a socialist.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:06 pm to gamatt53
Me too. Still waiting for a substantive argument to the contrary.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:07 pm to DeltaDoc
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If this type of socialism lets me kill large bull elk and catch 20" browns, then call me a socialist.
Same. Real men support public land. Pussy private high fence bitches don't
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:09 pm to DeltaDoc
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Me too. Still waiting for a substantive argument to the contrary.
Because States should decide how to use the majority of the land in their territory. States should also get the revenues from said lands. NOT WASHINGTON!!!
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:10 pm to gamatt53
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Same. Real men support public land. Pussy private high fence bitches don't
Why not make them State-owned public lands instead of the commies in Washington taking the land from the States?
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:12 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Why not make them State-owned public lands instead of the commies in Washington taking the land from the States?
The federal government had that land before statehood existed out there.
States have also proven that they will sell the land when it isn't revenue positive then the public loses
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:13 pm to gamatt53
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The federal government had that land before statehood existed out there.
yep.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:14 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Why not make them State-owned public lands instead of the commies in Washington taking the land from the States?
States have even more of a tendency than the Federal government to sell lands to private entities.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:17 pm to DeltaDoc
Good!
No National Parks will ever be sold.
Feds own way to much of the West.
It cost money to operate these lands and that increasing the debt.
More land put into private lands equals better economy
More land in production results in increased state and federal taxes
Proceeds of the SALE will reduce the nation debt
In 2015, the U.S. spent $223 billion, or 6 percent of the federal budget, paying for interest on the debt. In recent years, interest rates have been at historic lows. As they return closer to normal levels, the amount the government spends on interest will rise substantially.
$223,000,000,000.00 wasted every year. That's the equivalent to over 17 free aircraft carriers a year! We only have 10!!!!! That's over 20,000 miles of free interstate highways a year. We have less than 47,000 miles today after 60 years of construction! How much infrastructure problems can be addressed?
No National Parks will ever be sold.
Feds own way to much of the West.
It cost money to operate these lands and that increasing the debt.
More land put into private lands equals better economy
More land in production results in increased state and federal taxes
Proceeds of the SALE will reduce the nation debt
In 2015, the U.S. spent $223 billion, or 6 percent of the federal budget, paying for interest on the debt. In recent years, interest rates have been at historic lows. As they return closer to normal levels, the amount the government spends on interest will rise substantially.
$223,000,000,000.00 wasted every year. That's the equivalent to over 17 free aircraft carriers a year! We only have 10!!!!! That's over 20,000 miles of free interstate highways a year. We have less than 47,000 miles today after 60 years of construction! How much infrastructure problems can be addressed?
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:17 pm to gaetti15
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States have even more of a tendency than the Federal government to sell lands to private entities.
Also imagine what will happen when a crazy environmentalist gets elected one day in one of those states. No more hunting, shooting guns, camping wherever you want etc
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:18 pm to gamatt53
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The federal government had that land before statehood existed out there.
Then, why make them states? It makes no sense.
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States have also proven that they will sell the land when it isn't revenue positive then the public loses
Shouldn't it be the State's decision?
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:19 pm to Haughton99
quote:and mic drop
This is exactly what is wrong with politics today. Too damn many people unable to form their own opinion and just subscribe to group think.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:20 pm to Gaspergou202
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That's the equivalent to over 17 free aircraft carriers a year! We only have 10!!!!!
That aircraft carrier won't be around in 50 years. Public land will still be there for my grandchildren to enjoy just as I have. frick short sided thinking like this. Our public lands are more valuable than the numbers represented on the budget
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:21 pm to Sidicous
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Ted Turner fixin to add to his property holdings
This idea is what makes my mostly opposed to any selling off. Any time money changes hands with government deals, there is a high chance of corruption.
Hypothetical timeline if lands are sold:
Fed sells a few couple acres to the state for an extremely low price. State says great now we have "resources". Ideas by state politicians get kicked around as to what to do with the land. This goes on for several years until the state is in a money crunch and decides to sell it back to "citizens". Joe billionaire says shite yeah, I could use another half a million acres. Investment group from god knows where buys the other 1.5mill.
Leave lands the way they are. Those lands have been in those states for longer than vast majority of the citizens. If they haven't figured out how to deal with their state being Mostly public land then should've moved east long time ago.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:22 pm to KaiserSoze99
States cannot financially maintain the lands.
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