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Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:38 am to mwade91383
being accused of racism?
one is believed to have said some words, and has 40 years of incredibly positive history of fighting on the right side of blacks.
one was an actual member of a known hate group.
c'mon man. you are reaching and frankly not really highlighting your strengths....if you get my meaning.
also, the right doesn't bring up the kkk first. You actually think that? Seriously? Byrd is only mentioned after the bullshite attacks start.
one is believed to have said some words, and has 40 years of incredibly positive history of fighting on the right side of blacks.
one was an actual member of a known hate group.
c'mon man. you are reaching and frankly not really highlighting your strengths....if you get my meaning.
also, the right doesn't bring up the kkk first. You actually think that? Seriously? Byrd is only mentioned after the bullshite attacks start.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 8:40 am
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:05 am to ScrapPack
I have had one run in with the KKK.
I was driving from Texas to Alabama for my freshman year in school.
stopped for gas at a gas station in ?Laurel?, Mississippi.
a guy (clean cut black guy) at the gas station saw my out of state plates, asked what I was doing so far from home(I have always been told I look young for my age).
I Told him I was heading to Tuscaloosa for school.
He said welcome to the Deep South, etc. then, assuming I had never seen one, he suggested that I go drive by this Klan rally which was taking place taking place at the time in downtown.
I was taken back at first. but he continued and stopped just short of insisting I go and check it out. told him that is not my thing and had to get back on the Hwy. told him to have a nice day and be careful.
but once I got back on the road, I decided to check this thing out.
Drove up on the rally and observed for a few minutes.
even from 100 feet away I could tell these people were the biggest idiots in the world; drunks, shite for clothes, beat up cars, ugly women. I watched for a few minutes before I felt really dirty myself and decided to get the hell out of there.
15 years later I am still convinced that the black guy insisted I go check it out to see, with my own eyes, who these people really were. I also realized that at least some parts of the black community do not take them seriously at all.
furthermore,
being 18 at the time, it was one of the biggest expressions of free speech I have ever observed. I realized that free speech is a valuable freedom to even those who do not use it, as it exposes people like the KKK to the rest of society and allows us to make accurate judgments about them.
I was driving from Texas to Alabama for my freshman year in school.
stopped for gas at a gas station in ?Laurel?, Mississippi.
a guy (clean cut black guy) at the gas station saw my out of state plates, asked what I was doing so far from home(I have always been told I look young for my age).
I Told him I was heading to Tuscaloosa for school.
He said welcome to the Deep South, etc. then, assuming I had never seen one, he suggested that I go drive by this Klan rally which was taking place taking place at the time in downtown.
I was taken back at first. but he continued and stopped just short of insisting I go and check it out. told him that is not my thing and had to get back on the Hwy. told him to have a nice day and be careful.
but once I got back on the road, I decided to check this thing out.
Drove up on the rally and observed for a few minutes.
even from 100 feet away I could tell these people were the biggest idiots in the world; drunks, shite for clothes, beat up cars, ugly women. I watched for a few minutes before I felt really dirty myself and decided to get the hell out of there.
15 years later I am still convinced that the black guy insisted I go check it out to see, with my own eyes, who these people really were. I also realized that at least some parts of the black community do not take them seriously at all.
furthermore,
being 18 at the time, it was one of the biggest expressions of free speech I have ever observed. I realized that free speech is a valuable freedom to even those who do not use it, as it exposes people like the KKK to the rest of society and allows us to make accurate judgments about them.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:09 am to Balloon Huffer
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Byrd is only mentioned after the bullshite attacks start.
It's amazing to me that anyone over the age of 15 thinks any of this back and forth in the political arena is one sided. Only mentioned after the attacks start? Talk about selective memory. Have you been asleep all of 2016?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:14 am to mwade91383
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Not to the people on this board. Not in 2016. Not even a little bit.
If you want people to stop bringing up the kkk, start w stop bringing up the kkk yourself. Just a suggestion.
Make your opponent play by his rules while your side continues to refuse to.
We know the Democrat playbook.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:17 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Interracial marriages and black voting rights were still being fought against only 50 years ago. Don't act like all of the white supremacy garbage just stopped.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:18 am to mmcgrath
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Don't act like all of the white supremacy garbage just stopped.
"stopped" as in there are 0 of them left? no it hasn't stopped
it's basically been eradicated in any meaningful way, though
even if we go with a REALLY big number, like 1M legit white supremacists (i think it's supposed to be closer to 50k at most), that's less than 1/3 of 1% of our entire population of 320M. 1M sounds like a lot, but it's nothing in context
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:28 am to mmcgrath
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Don't act like all of the white supremacy garbaget is a real thing that threatens minorities in this country or has any political significance whatsoever.
Fify
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
"stopped" as in there are 0 of them left? no it hasn't stopped
it's basically been eradicated in any meaningful way, though
even if we go with a REALLY big number, like 1M legit white supremacists (i think it's supposed to be closer to 50k at most), that's less than 1/3 of 1% of our entire population of 320M. 1M sounds like a lot, but it's nothing in context
Sorry, but that is BS. Membership in any "official" white supremacy groups is way down because of public efforts to oppose them, but people with that sentiment was always a higher number and still exist today. It is less, but I would estimate that close to 10 million white Americans have a serious form of bigotry. And yes, there are bigoted people of different races as well.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:36 am to mwade91383
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My point is simple, if Byrd doesn't get a pass for what he did in the 50s (and I'm not defending the guy) sessions doesn't get a pass for what he did in the 80s. Or are we not even pretending to be consistent with anything?
Completely inconsistent.
On one case you have a guy who was not only an active member but a leader. This was back in the days when they actually had power and terrorized, raped, murdered and killed.
On the other case you have a guy who was not a member. It was also in a time when they were already insignificant. The only thing he was accused of was the following quote "I thought those bastards, the KKK were ok until I found out they were Pot Smokers"
Any rational human being can see it is a joke. He even starts it off by calling them bastards...
Remember the joke was made in the same time period 1980s when he prosecuted a KKK members son for murdering a black kid and got him the death penalty.
Any rational human being can see it is a joke. He even starts it off by calling them bastards...
There is ZERO I repeat ZERO evidence he ever did anything racist in his carrier.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:37 am to PurpleandGold Motown
I don't think I've even seen an actual klansman on my streets before, not firsthand at least. Who are these mythological white robed people today? I'm serious. I'm white, in about as Deep South as it gets, and I've never once been approached by one trying to recruit or whatever.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:37 am to mmcgrath
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I would estimate that close to 10 million white Americans have a serious form of bigotry
Oh, well that settles it then. You should have no problem citing he scores of white on black hate crimes happening all over the country then. It's clearly a huge threat to democracy, since democrats won't shut up about it.
Eta: let's do this honestly. Let's look at the liberals response to radical Islam in the US against the real threat defined as cases of violence. We can compare that to the liberal racist rhetoric and the actual cases of wite supremacist violence in the US and see who is really full of shite.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 9:42 am
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:39 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:39 am to mmcgrath
quote:
Membership in any "official" white supremacy groups is way down because of public efforts to oppose them
so society has changed a great deal? OK
quote:
people with that sentiment was always a higher number and still exist today.
i gave you 20x the estimates for this gap, and it's still 1/3 of 1% of our population
quote:
but I would estimate that close to 10 million white Americans have a serious form of bigotry. And yes, there are bigoted people of different races as well.
how are we defining bigotry, exactly? it's kind of a vague term these days
even if i gave you 10M for the entire population, its' like 3%. very, very low an insignificant
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:48 am to Scruffy
quote:
Make your opponent play by his rules while your side continues to refuse to.
We know the Democrat playbook.
It was in response to what he said! That's my whole damn point, case in point, right there! It just keeps going and going and both parties use the same s***y tactics. This notion that the right is only acting poorly in response to the lefts childish behaviour is the exact same thing (just roles reversed) the boards on the left believe about the right. Neither group has a leg to stand on if we want to be honest for one second.
It's a giant game of "they started it". This "we only do it because they do it" narrative is for the birds.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:50 am to PurpleandGold Motown
They don't care. They don't need a new boogyman because despite the fact that this one is nearly completely dead and gone, it still works. Their target audience still fears it and still believes it could be out to get them. The only thing better than a living boogyman is a dead one. You can't control the actions of a live boogyman, but one can manipulate a dead or imagined boogyman any way they want.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:51 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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nd even then it was only on Jerry Springer and the Phil Donahue show.
I've been a white guy living in the South for a long time. I've never met a member of the KKK. I've never even heard a rumor of one in our town. But I did see one on Jerry Springer back in the day. A month later there was a TV promotion that Donahue was gonna have one. I tuned in Donahue. It was the same damn guy who was on Springer.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:53 am to mmcgrath
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Sorry, but that is BS. Membership in any "official" white supremacy groups is way down because of public efforts to oppose them, but people with that sentiment was always a higher number and still exist today. It is less, but I would estimate that close to 10 million white Americans have a serious form of bigotry. And yes, there are bigoted people of different races as well.
Prove it.
You can't make guesses or have feelings.
That is constantly what liberals do. They make these racist statements and for years conservatives have let you get away with it.
From now on you have to provide facts to back up these outlandish racist assertions.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 9:54 am
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
The simple act of not being black means you are a bigot these days.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:56 am to kingbob
The American communist party is about 500% bigger than the Klan. No one ever talks about these guys.
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