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re: FCC plans to vote to overturn U.S. net neutrality rules in December

Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127033 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:48 pm to
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It would be wonderful if you could contribute meaningful insights into this discussion,
And you believe your "meaningful insight" is to predict TigerDroppings.com will "disappear" if an Obama imposed regulation over the internet is reversed? Are you 12 years old?







No, seriously.......
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43428 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:49 pm to
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Perhaps one day you will understand the internet. Or, maybe not. Either way, your grasp of this issue is very limited unfortunately.


What is your qualification for thinking you understand the internet more than him?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43428 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:50 pm to
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Well, it was nice knowin’ ya’ boys. This Trump FCC director is determined to dismantle net neutrality and I am afraid that sites like this won’t survive.



I see you copied and pasted your post from the OT thread.
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:53 pm to
Glad you noticed. And I don’t give a rats arse what you think. Let that soak in homeboy.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43428 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:57 pm to
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Glad you noticed. And I don’t give a rats arse what you think. Let that soak in homeboy.


It just means you have zero knowledge of the issue at hand and rely on reddit memes.

I'm sorry you're stupid.
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:01 pm to
That big ‘A’ next to your name says it all. Nationwide. We know. And, it’s ok. We understand. Interbreeding is rough on a family tree.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43428 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:04 pm to
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That big ‘A’ next to your name says it all. Nationwide. We know. And, it’s ok. We understand. Interbreeding is rough on a family tree.



You didn't answer my question. And the fact you reverted to 'HYUCK BAMA' pretty much tells me what I need to know.

At least go get a CCNA Route/Switch so we can have a discussion at the same basic knowledge level.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:32 pm to
Internet in the U.S. is a decade behind many EU states. You can get similar speeds to average U.S broadband for $6/month in the UK.

Regulation can create a more even playing field.. and it might sound distasteful but sometimes the solution to bad government is better government.

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....mobile internet speed where the US ranks 46th, just ahead of Albania and behind Oman. Average download speed in the US is 23.05 Mbps which is less than half the average download speeds in Norway, the Netherlands and Hungary. Average upload speed in the US is 8.26 Mbps. While mobile download speed increased by almost 20% from July 2016 to July 2017, the US’s world ranking fell from 44th to 46th. Not good. How much do Americans pay for this relatively poor mobile service? The Global Index doesn’t include this information but data gleaned from the World Bank’s 2016 report on the economic benefits of employing digital technologies provides some insight. According to the World Bank, the monthly cost of owning and using a cell phone in the US is $35.62. Only the Netherlands ($41.47), Ireland ($40.33), France ($40.27), Spain ($37.80) and Switzerland ($36.02) have higher monthly mobile costs measured in US dollars. The US ranks sixth in the world in the cost for mobile internet and 46th in mobile internet speed. In other words, people in the US aren't getting what they're paying for.


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The market in the UK used to be much like ours here in the U.S.: British homes had two options for broadband service: the incumbent telephone company British Telecom (BT), or a cable provider. Prices were high, service was slow, and, as I mentioned above, Britain was falling behind its European neighbors in international rankings of broadband service.

The solution, the British government decided, was more competition: If consumers had more options when it came to broadband service, regulators reasoned, prices would fall and speeds would increase. A duopoly of telephone and cable service wasn't enough. "You need to find the third lever," says Peter Black, who was the UK government's top broadband regulator from 2004 to 2008.

Starting around 2000, the government required BT to allow other broadband providers to use its lines to deliver service. That's known as "local loop unbundling" -- other providers could lease the loops of copper that runs from the telephone company office to homes and back and set up their own servers and routers in BT facilities.

...

When Black started work, only 12,000 British homes had multiple broadband providers. By the time he stepped down in 2008, about 5 million did, and today the number's closer to 6 million. "That's about a 500-fold increase in less than ten years," he says.

This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29459 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:42 pm to
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Internet is not right, it is a privilege.

All hyperbole aside, I really think it’s time we take a modern look at what the internet really is. Internet access is not a “right” as in life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and all. However it’s pretty much a necessity in modern society. Same as electricity and running water.

I think it should be regulated.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51032 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:46 pm to
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Internet in the U.S. is a decade behind many EU states. You can get similar speeds to average U.S broadband for $6/month in the UK.

Regulation can create a more even playing field.. and it might sound distasteful but sometimes the solution to bad government is better government.



Name one thing that has ever been made better through government intervention.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:03 pm to
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Name one thing that has ever been made better through government intervention.


Stop trying to pass off net neutrality as some kind of huge "government intervention." It's a pretty simple protocol that was envisioned by the creators of the internet.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109673 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:32 pm to
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Name one thing that has ever been made better through government intervention.


It’s not government intervention. They’re mostly keeping their hands off of it and not allowing the providers to frick their customers in the arse. We’re the ones that are free under this, while the Big Six are the ones being held back.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:13 pm to
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Stop trying to pass off net neutrality as some kind of huge government intervention"


Well it is pretty much the Republican dog whistle, mention that along with free market and the unwitting sheep will line up in seconds.

Kinda like using any form of
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'ism
on the other side of the aisle.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57453 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:19 pm to
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But #2 is still better than #3
So you'd prefer DP fu*king by the government AND telecoms?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57453 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:21 pm to
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I live 45 mins west of Lawton. Satellite is not feasible due to the weather so almost no one uses it unless they live out on a farm and there is not other option

Most the ISPs do not cover the whole area.
Serious question for you... If it's so cheap and so profitable to put in all the infrastructure... why don't you start your own ISP? You'll only need one infinite bandwidth switch.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57453 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:27 pm to
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I am afraid that sites like this won’t survive.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57453 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:28 pm to
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Agreed. It is politicians vs. the people. And the people are losing.
No doubt. If there's one sure way to make sure the politicians don't win... it's to give them more regulatory power over private industries.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57453 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:30 pm to
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You can get similar speeds to average U.S broadband for $6/month in the UK.
You're late to the party. We eviscerated that this morning.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57453 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:30 pm to
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However it’s pretty much a necessity in modern society.
So you're for food neutrality as well?

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I think it should be regulated.
Why?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66543 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:32 pm to
Food neutrality? What kind of a straw man is that?

Nice fallacy.
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