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re: EPA dismisses half of the scientists on its advisory board

Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:38 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84839 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:38 am to
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It's ok if Trump does it because MAGA.


basically
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11443 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:44 am to
Thats a good start, now fire the other half and shut down the EPA altogether.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26981 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:50 am to
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Thats a good start, now fire the other half and shut down the EPA altogether.




What city will be the first to look like China? Meaning having "stay inside" smog days like Beijing? I'm in a suburb of Houston, so I am thinking we'd be high up the list.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81596 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:59 am to
So awesome - they are going to be all over the media melting so hard
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 8:42 am to
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Second it's cute that you think business people have no interest in public good


That is 100% proven. If you are trying to make the argument that business people will favor the public interest over the interests of the companies they work for, you are making a mistake.

Business will ALWAYS favor its own profit interest over ANY interest of the public. Always has, always will.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32676 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 8:45 am to
How can anyone agree that "integrity of its science"can possibly maintained if all of the scientists are just part of one big groupthink?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105403 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 8:51 am to
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What I DO have a problem with is stacking the EPA with industry people who will then in turn be making decisions based on what's best for their business, not what's in the public interest.


Lolz, as of this wasn't happening under Obama with him using the agency to build the green energy sector and throwing monrey anf contracts at his friends.

Best interest of the public by creating hidden taxes on the middle class through fee's and costly regulations of business that did little to effect the climate. He just used it to get more dollars to spend on his failed policies on the backs of Americans to make himself and his friends wealthier, and to gain power and influence.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 8:51 am to
Maybe they could be transferred to the coal industry and study how to convert coal to diamonds.
Posted by LSUcjb318
Member since Jul 2008
2364 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 8:55 am to
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saying its scientists often fail to weigh the cost of implementing new regulations on businesses.


This is not their job to do.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9415 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:30 am to
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They are being replaced by representatives of the industries the EPA regulates.


Must be some of that swamp-draining we hear so much about.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9106 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:33 am to
Getting a more balanced and inclusive scientific review process is a good thing.

What's the point in having an advisory board when all the members are alike?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27105 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:39 am to
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Do you really think industry representatives should be the ones to make that call? Do they have the public interest at heart? Not saying they shouldn't be consulted at all but come on this is absurd.


Who said they were making the call? From what I see they will provide input... Do you think a scientist that has never held an actual job in industry is well equipped to determine the best way to regulate an industry OR do you think maybe putting the scientist together with an industry expert to come to a common conclusion concerning a problem might not be the best way to go?

Seems to me if you get the industry on board and allow them to participate in crafting the regulations that eventually obtain the desired goal, you will get the best result for both...

And it does work (before you say it does not), especially at the State level in the development of new environmental regulations and programs... The biggest advantage is you already have the buy in from the industry, which usually cuts down on the legal challenges...
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:40 am to
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9106 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:02 am to
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What I DO have a problem with is stacking the EPA with industry people who will then in turn be making decisions based on what's best for their business, not what's in the public interest. That's not draining the swamp, that's doubling down on it.




May be the EPA could use some input from industry? It might help them to stop doing things like polluting our rivers.


quote:

The Environmental Protection Agency said Friday it will not repay claims totaling more than $1.2 billion for economic damages from a mine waste spill the agency accidentally triggered in Colorado,
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11806 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:08 am to

Drain the Swamp!
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:55 am to
"How can anyone agree that "integrity of its science"can possibly maintained if all of the scientists are just part of one big groupthink?"


Global cooling...

Global warming...

Climate change...
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:57 am to
We WILL win the war on science!!!!



Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78480 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:58 am to
Bringing the Swack Hammer down on the pseudoscience ideologues.
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2940 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:29 am to
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Y'all are literally arguing FOR crony capitalism. I guess that's what conservatism is in 2017


With the other option of crony liberals only trying to push their agenda... I'll take capitalism.
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