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EPA dismisses half of the scientists on its advisory board

Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:57 pm
Posted by member12
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:57 pm
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EPA dismisses half of the scientists on its advisory board

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The Trump administration will not reappoint half the expert members of a board that advises the Environmental Protection Agency on the integrity of its science, the latest in a series of moves that could benefit industries whose pollution the government regulates.

Deborah L. Swackhamer, chairwoman of the Board of Scientific Counselors, confirmed Monday that nine of the 18 outside experts on her panel will not serve a second three-year term. The affected board members' terms expired April 30.

Experts are limited to serving two terms on the board, and Swackhamer said that in the past those completing their first term would typically have been reappointed. Four other board members just completed their second terms, meaning 13 of the 18 seats on the panel are vacant.



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EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt has long been a fierce critic of the agency he now leads, saying its scientists often fail to weigh the cost of implementing new regulations on businesses. Pruitt, a lawyer who previously served as Oklahoma's elected attorney general, has moved in recent weeks to roll back Obama-era limits on toxic pollution from coal-fired power plants and countermand a push to ban a pesticide that peer-reviewed studies said may harm the developing brains of young children.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:59 pm to
Guessing more winning is right around the corner.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:00 pm to
Trump wins again!
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:00 pm to
Good deal.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:01 pm to
How much bloat do you need? What amount of "experts" all saying "oil/coal, bad... solar/wind, good" would make you happy? Is nine not enough?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:03 pm to
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How much bloat do you need?


Depends on how many big donors need an appointment.
Posted by airfernando
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:46 pm to
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Environmental Protection Agency
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integrity of its science
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:50 pm to
They are being replaced by representatives of the industries the EPA regulates. And y'all spin this as a positive somehow

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Y'all are literally arguing FOR crony capitalism. I guess that's what conservatism is in 2017
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 10:54 pm
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 11:00 pm to
Anything that can be done to reduce the bloat, regulations and reach of the agencies that fall under the executive branch "management" I support.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 11:01 pm to
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They are being replaced by representatives of the industries the EPA regulates. And y'all spin this as a positive somehow

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Y'all are literally arguing FOR crony capitalism. I guess that's what conservatism is in 2017


Melt ***** melt!
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 11:02 pm to
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Anything that can be done to reduce the bloat, regulations and reach of the agencies that fall under the executive branch "management" I support.


Saying all regulations are bad is just as dumb as saying they're all good

Do you really think industry representatives should be the ones to make that call? Do they have the public interest at heart? Not saying they shouldn't be consulted at all but come on this is absurd.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Pinecone Repair
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 11:13 pm to
They probably had twice as many as necessary.
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 11:46 pm to
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Saying all regulations are bad is just as dumb as saying they're all good


I didn't say they were all bad did I?

The regs should be reduced after review on what has value and what does not.

What is absurd is the amount of regulations that just blow out of these agencies asses every year and they are under no review at all. Note that these regulations are law. A business can be shut down, people put in jail and fined extraordinary amounts for violating these "laws".

The game in DC is to spend every cent of your budget for the year in order to lay the ground work of a larger budget for the next. The measuring of budget dicks in DC equals power. The more money you burn the better.

And how do you justify the spend? One way and one way only - pass regulations. More and more and more of them. That's what they do. Do they have the public interest at heart or is it just justifying their existence? Your base premise is flawed and that is all of these regs serve the public good. They don't I assure you.

The industry I am in is regulated by the EPA, FDA, OHSA and DOT as well as state regulatory departments. I know whereof I speak.

One of the largest departments we have is called simply Regulatory. They have to keep up with all this shite. It is strangling business in America. I stand by my comment.

Trump gets it. Maybe you will too someday.

Drain the fricking swamp.

MAGA!!
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 12:09 am to
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the latest in a series of moves that could benefit industries whose money the government siphons.


FIFY
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 4:56 am to
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EPA dismisses half of the scientists on its advisory board
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EPA established the Board of Scientific Counselors (BOSC) to provide advice, information, and recommendations about the Office of Research and Development (ORD) research program.

The mission of the BOSC is to:

Evaluate science and engineering research, programs and plans, laboratories, and research-management practices of ORD and recommend actions to improve their quality and/or strengthen their relevance to EPA's mission.

Evaluate and provide advice concerning the utilization of peer review within ORD to sustain and enhance the quality of science in EPA.

Review ORD's program development and progress, ORD's research planning process, and research program balance, including implementation of the ORD Strategic Plan.

Provide peer review including evaluation of ORD's peer review policies, and review ORD offices, national laboratories and centers, and research plans and products.

Provide advice on human resources planning, such as scientist career development and rotational assignment programs, and the appropriate scope and design of training programs for environmental research professionals.
Sounds like the nidus of a good deal of the EPA's BS. Good for Pruitt.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 6:12 am to
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WhopperDawg


I have absolutely no problem with a review of regulations. I have no problem with 1 in 2 out. I don't even have a problem with consulting business leaders to get a sense of what some of the sillier regs are.

What I DO have a problem with is stacking the EPA with industry people who will then in turn be making decisions based on what's best for their business, not what's in the public interest. That's not draining the swamp, that's doubling down on it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 6:21 am to
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What I DO have a problem with is stacking the EPA with industry people who will then in turn be making decisions based on what's best for their business, not what's in the public interest.
two things. First it's cute but you think the EPA has always done things in the public interest and somehow you don't include business under the umbrella of the public. Second it's cute that you think business people have no interest in public good. Like their space aliens or something. You folks that worship the government really need to get a grip and pay attention to what's actually going on around you
Posted by Capital Cajun
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 6:46 am to
When only 6.5% of the employees in the entire agency are essential this is just a drop in the bucket.

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Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:27 am to
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First it's cute but you think the EPA has always done things in the public interest


well they certainly aren't now so no, i wouldn't say that

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and somehow you don't include business under the umbrella of the public. Second it's cute that you think business people have no interest in public good. Like their space aliens or something.


You're putting words in my mouth. Did you ignore where I said I had no problem with agencies consulting industry leaders to identify and get rid of duplicitive, outdated, or otherwise faulty regulations?

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really need to get a grip and pay attention to what's actually going on around you


No, you do. You're literally defending crony capitalism.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26957 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:37 am to
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No, you do. You're literally defending crony capitalism.



It's ok if Trump does it because MAGA.
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